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Right, so I was somewhere in Rlaan space when I saw this thing. I wasn't actually close enough for a visual, but I saw it in my little targeting area. It looked pretty friggin' big. It was an Aera capital vessel, sort of like a Vitik, but kind of rounded out in the middle. I checked on the wiki and it said it's the "Dreadnought of the current age" and that it's anew ship. Has anyone else ever seen one? Docked with one? Seen it in combat?
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Post by Jeff2121 »

OMFG was it big?

Did it have flashy lights?

Was it blue?

Did eat smaller ships?

Ask yourself these questions before saying that it is a Arean Dreadnaught.
We all know Dreads are these things, except maybe the Blue part. Anyways, you got a screenie? :?
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Post by Miramor »

Yep, it's a dreadnought, and it's huge. It also has lots and lots of turrets. I would seriously not recommend going after one of those unless you're flying something with really, really heavy weapons, and have some capships and a wing of Goddards fighting for you. And some way to deal with those damn turrets, let's not forget.

(Not sure, but I think a Mule might be able to take one on as long as you avoid getting an anticap missile in the face, as the Leonidas and other Aera capships don't seem to have many seriously heavy guns. Mules IIRC can take capship-heavy guns, so maybe you could get behind a Leonidas and pound away with fusion cannons, and hope that your ECM works and the turrets aren't powerful enough to wear you down.)
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Post by Namlem »

I was looking at the master parts list and noticed it wasn't there. Is this normal? Are there other ships that don't appear there for some reason?
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Post by loki1950 »

@Namlem it's not in master parts list because you can't buy it :wink: that's how we tell if you can buy something not there no transaction.

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Post by Dark-Blood-Hound »

Could you possibly hack a non-buyable ship?
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Post by loki1950 »

What do you think the wink was about 8) of course you can but it's not the only thing to do IIRC.

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Post by Miramor »

Okay, any ship that can mount an icepick beam (available in Rlaan space, does damage equivalent to about one torpedo per second) should also be able to take out a Leonidas. I wouldn't expect it to be fast though.

(Icepick is a capship-heavy beam, so choices are a bit limited, and the range is only 4 km. Good luck.)
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Post by JimiJons »

Funny, a Leonidas spawned at my jumppoint, 4,000m away once. I almost hit it, and i'm damn lucky I didn't. Either way, it should've started shooting at me but didn't... I have -100 relations with the Aeran faction, but it let me fly away in an uncloaked Llama. Lol. I sure was scared though.
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Post by Boaal »

This is why I'm happy I have the Rlaan and Area at 100 relations. Powerful allies... I have yet to see one of thise things. But then, I don't see many area vessels (apart from my own one, so....
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Post by Xante »

I hacked myself a Leonidas and tried to fly with it.... OMFG!! It takes one hour for sure to make a complete 360° turn. Definitively not a ship for human player, unless you are very very patient. Even if I could I would never buy it, and normally I love capships.

And since this ship isn't textured yet, it's also ugly. Nevertheless, it has huge amount of turrets, all sizes and styles. I didn't count them, but it took long to scroll through all those turrets in the upgrades list.

I guess it is the last step for a capship before being a death-star.
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Post by ()Alf »

OMFG!! It takes one hour for sure to make a complete 360° turn.
You could also hack to behave like a fighter, which i did with csv-editor :mrgreen:
Enjoy the Tri p :shock:
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Post by Xante »

()Alf wrote:
OMFG!! It takes one hour for sure to make a complete 360° turn.
You could also hack to behave like a fighter, which i did with csv-editor :mrgreen:
I wonder how you can dock at a station with a 7000 meters long fighter? :?

And I really don't want to meet a hacked Leonidas ingame that's not mine :lol:
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*()Alf*
You could also hack to behave like a fighter, which i did with csv-editor
Hehe :lol: I hacked myself a leonidas too. :twisted: It really was not very much fun. :( It turns as slow as a planet, and the front guns are useless. :x Nothing with technology from the vegastrike age should turn that slowly. :evil: I must admit, I love the whiplash turrets though!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Hehehe!! :twisted: After a while, I, too, became annoyed and hacked it so that it possesed the agility of a heavy fighter! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Then that was just rediculous, :wink: so I slowed it down a decent ammount, and now I can actually have fun piloting it. :wink: 8) :D

*Xante*
And I really don't want to meet a hacked Leonidas ingame that's not mine
*BRRRRRRR!!! SHIVER-SHIVER BRRRRRRRRRR!!!*
:shock: :shock: :shock: M-m-m-meeeee n-n-n-neeeiiiither... *BRRRRRR!!!! SHIVER*

That will give me vegastrike nightmares...
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Post by Xante »

I found a better way to get into the taste of a Leonidas. I hacked its GrandGauss cannon into my Goddard. This is 'till now the most powerfull weapon I've ever seen, and only appears on the Leonidas. It deals 35.000 Mj at each shot (need good Reactors though) at 177 km distance :shock: :shock:

Fighters have now to swarm on me in groups to get a chance to shoot at me before dying, and I can take on capital vessels at a distance where they can't bother me. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Imagine 8 GrandGauss on a little cloaking Vendetta, that's allmost God-Mode 8)
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Post by bgaskey »

. This is 'till now the most powerfull weapon I've ever seen
Have you tried the Pminus mk IV beams from a milspec tesla. I played around with those for a while 8) you can mess things up 8) (like fighter bases :lol: ) may be time for me to mess around with ship hacking a bit more. Last time, i hit too many zeroes on thrust and my telsa was 20 times faster than light fighters :wink: kinda hard to fly tho :?
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Post by loki1950 »

Yeah you still have stop it sometime and the mass is still huge.

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Post by bgaskey »

nah my mass was considerably less huge than usual :wink: if you know what I mean
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Post by Xante »

Yeah I know the Pminus MK IV Beam: high energy output, but it's range is by far not 177 km. You have to be at quite a (dangerously) close range to use the full power of that weapon. The Gauss is a bolt weapon, so it hasn't such an energy loss on the long range. So in my opinion I would beat any ship equipped with Pminus, say the Gauss holds the top of the ranking to me.

You want to see the top of the hacked ships?

Vendetta w. Clydesdale milspec package, 8 GrandGauss Autotracking, 6 advTorpedo racks Autotracking with 100 ammo each, 50 of each shady upgrade (except turning, 20, otherwise it wouldn't be stearable), for the rest all the crème de la crème of the upgrades available and a cloaking device.

Went into aera space with it and detroyed a fleet of about 10 heavily escorted aera merchant marine Clydesdales and one aera Leonidas, about 60 ships in total, wich swarmed on me quasi simultaneously (aeras don't like me). Not one friendly ship anywhere. My ship landed securely on a planet there, with some little scars though.

But I will leave that ship in the hangar. Using it to much ingame is like continuously dancing on an ant-hill, killing everything without even taking notice of it. Was quite fun to try though.

The best thing you aquire while doing this kind of childish looking hacking is precious knowledge about the game engine. I think I'm ready to try to make my own ship. I got plenty of ideas so I'll try my skills on wings3D...
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Post by bgaskey »

I'll try my skills on wings3D...
good luck can't wait to see some cool new ships 8)

Hacking your ships is just dumb after a while but its a fun afternoon :)
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Re: Leonidas

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Once I found 17 (yes 17) Leonidas in a single system; I docked at a few of them and found a lot of upgrades and a bunch of cargo, none of it interesting.
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Re: Leonidas

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A good way to kill a Leonidas is entering at /home/username/.vegastrike-(version number)/serialized_xml/name of your saved game, open the file with the ship you're actually piloting and at one of the mounts put "capshipmisile". Enjoy :twisted:
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Re: Leonidas

Post by Genghis Prawn »

How about just adding a Vigilance to your save game .. it comes with lots of capship missiles. . . and it has excellent speed and maneuverability for a capship. The Relativistic Particle Beam doesn't seem to be particularly effective against small fast vessels .. they look like they hit but no damage shows.
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Re: Leonidas

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Grand Gauss, nor the Capshipmissile is the strongest weapon. Try hacking yourself a beholder, use its uknownheavybeam. I am pretty sure you will like it, excellent range, I think about about 5 times as much damage as the capshipmissile (not sure, haven't checked), but it uses a giant amount of energy. You can destroy a Star Fortress is about 3 seconds with it, and it will practically obliterate any ship it touches. Not to mention, the beholder is extremely fast and has a overpowered turning rate, you can just spin around in circles and destroy anything that comes near you. Grand Gauss, nor the Capshipmissile can compete with it.

And besides, you said it yourself, the Grand Gauss is a bolt weapon. That makes it easy to dodge.

Vigilance is my favorite capship, by the way, because it is used by my favorite faction, the Purists.
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Re: Leonidas

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^ - - ^ one word: "Starfortresss"

^- - ^ or is that two?
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