edit: Chat logs about warp in system variable

[2asueekim]

When saving in sol.system while warp_is_interstellar is enabled loading again after that hangs the game. I informed safemode of this and he went on his normal luddite tangent about how he doesn't feel like fixing the bug:

08:05 < safemode> the bug is that the mod allows the engine to even read the
option
08:05 < r00t____> CENSORED
08:05 < safemode> for Upon The Coldest Sea, that option should not exist.
08:06 < safemode> you're not gonna convince anyone to alter the entire makeup
of the VS universe
08:07 < safemode> intersystem spec does not exist in the canonical VS universe
08:07 < safemode> plain and simple
08:08 < r00t____> I just want this bug to be fixed
08:08 < r00t____> you want to make it more difficult to hit this bug instead
08:08 < safemode> no amount of screaming is gonna convince the people
responsible for Upon The Coldest Sea anymore than you'd
convince the Vegatrek mod to change the Name of the Klingon
Empire to the Vorlons and have Babylon 5 species
08:08 < r00t____> you do not want to fix the bug
08:09 < safemode> sure i do, i'll simply make it so that the mod's python fixes
the config file prior to sending it to the engine
08:10 < safemode> what you want to do is break canon, which wont happen, so
stop bothering to ask
08:10 < r00t____> yea, you want to make it so that I cannot enable intersystem
spec
08:10 < r00t____> CENSORED
08:10 < safemode> for UponTheColdest sea. yea, because it has to adhere to
canon
08:11 < r00t____> CENSORED
08:11 < r00t____> IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU WERENT WORKING FOR VS
08:11 < safemode> you're welcome to start your own mod of the game
08:11 < safemode> nobody else is going to do anything stupid like what you want
either
08:11 < r00t____> so fixing the non-loading bug is stupid?
08:11 < safemode> you apparently have brain damage and dont understand what
canon is
08:12 < r00t____> there is a technical bug, what is wrong with fixing it
08:12 < safemode> you can't put "features" in the game where that feature isn't
supported by anything in the universe
08:12 < safemode> there is no technology in VS to allow spec intersystem travel
08:12 < r00t____> CENSORED
08:13 < safemode> that's why everyone uses jump gates


[troll]
CENSORED

[vodalian]

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

[bgaskey]

Safemode's suggestion would fix the bug alright. Infact, ur bug is the reason Intersys spec isn't default active afaik. If you were to read the VS backstory, which admittedly is several hundred pages and I didn't read it all, you would know that there are several distinct eras of the game, one of which, "Upon the Coldest Sea" is being worked on now. Others include "Rimward of Eden" "Foundering Inheritance" and I think there's one more but I don't remember what it is. This option should be disabled in the VS engine due to both the technical aspect and its impossibility and should be a compile-in option instead to remain usable for mods etc without branching the source, because that just makes a mess.

And you really shouldn't have posted the chat log, he didn't say it publicly and you shouldn't assume he would want it to be made public.

And cursing off in every other line is bad.

[Phlogios]

That r00t dude needs a good slap in the face.

Manners, son.