Hi,
I've made a sketch for the kind of HUD I would like to see in Vegastrike. The ideas mostly come from the F-16 Fighting Falcon's HUD. For information on the gun funnel see the Multi Command Handbook for the F-16 at http://www.f-16.net/downloads_file1.html, pages 111-115.
Ideas for the HUD
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Ideas for the HUD
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Good look i have a few flight combat sims about and like the Su-33's HUD layout a bit better than the F-16's but thats me
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I'll dig around the CD:s to see if i can extract it as i don't have them installed ATM they are windows and i am in my fedora install.
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pretty well concept, i would take it but not without a turnindicator that helps to configure the stick and is abselutly necessary for mouseflight!
maybe u could add also some small icons for ecm on/off, jump and dock
for guns with autoaim ability we need some kind of seeker, similar to the missilelockseeker, that trys to catch the ponit of deah, both point of death and autoaim schould only be aviable if a itts capable scanner is installed.
by the way 'targeting systems' could be new class of equipment that work aside the radar by using its data to get missilelocks, the point of death and operate autoaiming guns, each in a more or less efficient way ...
for the weapons i miss some kind of grouping ability and firemodes like chain, groupchain, fire current selected weapon etc. (mechwarrior 2 and 3 was superb in this matter) plusnb weapons schould turn into a darker color when the target is out of range for them.
the hud should be supported by a basic gui that covers radar, missiongoals, weaponmanagement, target/navepoint-list and chatwindow, etc. that could be operated by mouse and keybord ... freelancer, freespace2 and eve got nice but not perfect guis, i think vegastrike can beat them in many terms!
such a windowbased gui could also be used to represent varios data like marketinformations, reputationlist and mangement for further things that make thier way in when the games grows.
well basicly all the nifty stuff that makes pilots life easier ...
maybe u could add also some small icons for ecm on/off, jump and dock
for guns with autoaim ability we need some kind of seeker, similar to the missilelockseeker, that trys to catch the ponit of deah, both point of death and autoaim schould only be aviable if a itts capable scanner is installed.
by the way 'targeting systems' could be new class of equipment that work aside the radar by using its data to get missilelocks, the point of death and operate autoaiming guns, each in a more or less efficient way ...
for the weapons i miss some kind of grouping ability and firemodes like chain, groupchain, fire current selected weapon etc. (mechwarrior 2 and 3 was superb in this matter) plusnb weapons schould turn into a darker color when the target is out of range for them.
the hud should be supported by a basic gui that covers radar, missiongoals, weaponmanagement, target/navepoint-list and chatwindow, etc. that could be operated by mouse and keybord ... freelancer, freespace2 and eve got nice but not perfect guis, i think vegastrike can beat them in many terms!
such a windowbased gui could also be used to represent varios data like marketinformations, reputationlist and mangement for further things that make thier way in when the games grows.
well basicly all the nifty stuff that makes pilots life easier ...
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Any suggestions on how to do this in a way that doesn't get in the way?pretty well concept, i would take it but not without a turnindicator that helps to configure the stick and is abselutly necessary for mouseflight!
I was only thinking about the center of the HUD here. I think these indicators are not important enough to be put in the center and should rather go somewhere to the head down instrumentation.maybe u could add also some small icons for ecm on/off, jump and dock
For autoaim the point of death should become a circle of death indicating the degree of freedom the weapons provide. If autoaimed weapons aim slowly enough a seeker like reticle would make sense, yes.for guns with autoaim ability we need some kind of seeker, similar to the missilelockseeker, that trys to catch the ponit of deah, both point of death and autoaim schould only be aviable if a itts capable scanner is installed.
Such features would be desireable. Personally I miss something similar to TIE Fighter's way of cross linking weapons:by the way 'targeting systems' could be new class of equipment that work aside the radar by using its data to get missilelocks, the point of death and operate autoaiming guns, each in a more or less efficient way ...
for the weapons i miss some kind of grouping ability and firemodes like chain, groupchain, fire current selected weapon etc. (mechwarrior 2 and 3 was superb in this matter) plusnb weapons schould turn into a darker color when the target is out of range for them.
1. fire just one weapon at a time to get a continous weapons fire
2. fire weapons in pairs
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n. fire all weapons at once
Hm, I'm not sure if I want to be dealing with windows and the like in a cockpit. In my opinion it's bad enough that all modern desktop environments are window based, it just slows down my workflow if I don't organize it carefully (and certainly not in the way the market leader organized his operating system...).the hud should be supported by a basic gui that covers radar, missiongoals, weaponmanagement, target/navepoint-list and chatwindow, etc. that could be operated by mouse and keybord ... freelancer, freespace2 and eve got nice but not perfect guis, i think vegastrike can beat them in many terms!
I think such instrumentation isn't important enough to be put in a HUD and should go to the other head down instrumentation as well.
such a windowbased gui could also be used to represent varios data like marketinformations, reputationlist and mangement for further things that make thier way in when the games grows.
well basicly all the nifty stuff that makes pilots life easier ...
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al little diffrent colored dot or circle that moves over the screen or within a given invisible/visible box/circle on the screen would do that well ...Beowulf wrote:Any suggestions on how to do this in a way that doesn't get in the way?pretty well concept, i would take it but not without a turnindicator that helps to configure the stick and is abselutly necessary for mouseflight!
windowbased wasnt exactly the correct term, in fs2 u could move the most stuff on the screen and change its occupacy within the options of the game, since vegastrike is lacking ingameconfiguration, it would be nice to have a specail hudmode (keycombo) that swtches the hudstuff into some kind of editable 'windows' occupacy, color, move and scale might usfull options on hud objects, when it comes to things like targetlist u might need some extra buttons and keycombos for switching the subviews of the list like navpoints, missiongoals, ships, important/enemies, etc. u maybe wanna edit even the colors and keycombos for the displayed objects aswellBeowulf wrote:Hm, I'm not sure if I want to be dealing with windows and the like in a cockpit. In my opinion it's bad enough that all modern desktop environments are window based, it just slows down my workflow if I don't organize it carefully (and certainly not in the way the market leader organized his operating system...).the hud should be supported by a basic gui that covers radar, missiongoals, weaponmanagement, target/navepoint-list and chatwindow, etc. that could be operated by mouse and keybord ... freelancer, freespace2 and eve got nice but not perfect guis, i think vegastrike can beat them in many terms!
I think such instrumentation isn't important enough to be put in a HUD and should go to the other head down instrumentation as well.
the crosshair and missilecone, misselseeker targetbox ... all stuff thats fixed or is alterated by the game doent have to option to move or scale them, but are just speacail a kind of a 'window' by thinking from the programmers point of view to the whole topic of a customizeabe hud.
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