Catamaran Style Freightor (My First Starship Model)
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Catamaran Style Freightor (My First Starship Model)
I was rather inspired by the thread with sketches of the Aera, and this is my first little attempt at a starship. I figured that non-fragile cargo could be hauled externally using gravitic fields (disperse tractor beams), and anyway I thought it looked cool.
I don't know if it would fit well in VS. Is it worth going any further on?
I don't know if it would fit well in VS. Is it worth going any further on?
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Free hosting by sourceforge has some minor disadvantages; I think only text attachments are allowed. You can use image shack for pics.
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Actually I can't even find the buttons for attaching. I've attached log files in the compilation forum though. They just don't seem to be there now.
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Well, looks like some katamaran, allright; buy why? Better to start from function and go from there to form, than start with a totally arbitrary form concept and then try to justify it, I find. Anyways, you seem to have some modelling skills, but if you show something as soon as you have anything to show, or not even, you'll get a lukewarm response at best. Better to work hard at it, have people go WOW!, and that fills you with self esteem and positive associations.
Tons of details, well considered measures and scale, some familiar forms that help feel the sense of scale, such as windows and supporting structures; and purposeful looking stuff, rule the day. Engines should get special attention.
Read this thread:
http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/forum ... php?t=4915
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http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/forum ... php?t=6319
Tons of details, well considered measures and scale, some familiar forms that help feel the sense of scale, such as windows and supporting structures; and purposeful looking stuff, rule the day. Engines should get special attention.
Read this thread:
http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/forum ... php?t=4915
And check this one for references:
http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/forum ... php?t=6319
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Cool. Thanks. I'll definitely check them out.
Function was involved a bit (along the same lines as a conventional catamaran: greater stability and less mass than a more traditional ship; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catamaran). With a broader width more torque can be generated for like force (though moment of inertia is also increased), and with a smaller hull for the same cargo space mass will be dramatically decreased (think a freighter with the base mass of one half its size).
I was thinking of eventually doing models with: A.) three or four hulls, and B.) solar sails.
Function was involved a bit (along the same lines as a conventional catamaran: greater stability and less mass than a more traditional ship; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catamaran). With a broader width more torque can be generated for like force (though moment of inertia is also increased), and with a smaller hull for the same cargo space mass will be dramatically decreased (think a freighter with the base mass of one half its size).
I was thinking of eventually doing models with: A.) three or four hulls, and B.) solar sails.
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Oh. So that's why... I will not show WIPs again.but if you show something as soon as you have anything to show, or not even, you'll get a lukewarm response at best. Better to work hard at it, have people go WOW!, and that fills you with self esteem and positive associations.
Spaceships that look like ships.I was thinking of eventually doing models with: A.) three or four hulls, and B.) solar sails.
Not sure if the advantages of catamarans work for spaceships though. But an inspired model is a good model.
I'm partial to ships with weird shapes and lotsa jutting parts. nice.
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Good point - posting WIPs has to have a specific purpose: get guiding feedback. If you're lost, and don't know what to do with it, post a WIP. If you, however, have a clear idea of where it has to go, just do it, and post the not-so-WIP, to get feedback on the "quality" area.
One reason to post early WIPs, is to get approval over overall design, if you're concerned it might not fit entirely within the game (and don't want to model something that won't).
One reason to post early WIPs, is to get approval over overall design, if you're concerned it might not fit entirely within the game (and don't want to model something that won't).
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That's kind of where I was on this one. What do you think of it as an Aera freightor? Do you think the style works? They are supposed to have smoother, sleek designs if I understand correctly. I also made it a bit, "anthropomorphic," in the sense that it's main viewports are on the underside (the skids also had three fold symmetry, but I'm probably going to completely redo them).klauss wrote:One reason to post early WIPs, is to get approval over overall design, if you're concerned it might not fit entirely within the game (and don't want to model something that won't).
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I'm not the one to ask, JackS is, but I'd say the surface quality (as in characteristics) is quite aerish, but not the overall shape and construction.
The fact that it is built of two modules connected by those... struts... is anti-aeran. Aeran tend to have monolithic-looking (though not monolithically-built) ships.
The fact that it is built of two modules connected by those... struts... is anti-aeran. Aeran tend to have monolithic-looking (though not monolithically-built) ships.
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Umm. Maybe a Shmrn ship. Designed by them without help from the Andolians. Ask JackS if it fits. I remember some ships that never made it into the named lists. An effort at rebalancing, still unfinished.
So maybe a Shmrn freighter. It fits because Shmrns are amphibious.
And with WIP... okay. But I'll still show only not-so-crappy WIPs.
So maybe a Shmrn freighter. It fits because Shmrns are amphibious.
And with WIP... okay. But I'll still show only not-so-crappy WIPs.
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