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Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby Fendorin » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:27 pm

hello i have this ship from long time then i just finish the texturing is a civilian-nothing-special ship: the AIDI

"Nearly unchanged in design over centuries of use, this simple passenger transport (primarily used for in-system only traffic) is exactly that - simple, and a passenger transport. Some designs have no need of frequent revisting because they are already well adapted to their utilization. Comfortable, if not spacious, accomodating to multiple atmosphere requirements, and completley innocuous, these ships bustle about every populous Rlaan presence."
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i tryed to render a old "wings/flap/radiator/manipulator...etc" more old like a first"release" type/version.

see the picture below for critics you are welcome:

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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI

Postby ace123 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:33 pm

Must have missed this thread.

Looks really good for a rlaan civilian ship.

Should this go into SVN?
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI

Postby loki1950 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:56 pm

Not without some discussion :wink: I seen it early but did not comment then should have as it seems to have gotten forgotten :(

It is a needed model as there are no Rlaan civilian ships ATM and i think it fits the concept but we have no comment from the minister of information.

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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI

Postby Deus Siddis » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:56 pm

As soon as this gets in it will be the best looking Rlaan ship in the game. Really interesting red specular texture pattern blending with the purple diffuse of the fins.
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI

Postby Fendorin » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:00 pm

i m not sure if this ship will be accepted by JAcks, but because is really canonn and little bit simple civilian i post the mesh+the map+the masters map file+the blend file with the marker.
Rlaan space need more civilian "decor" ships

miss th hud picture and the stats (but maybe copy the Sartre stats?)
DivShare File - AIDI_V1.zip
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI

Postby Fendorin » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:14 pm

Per Email PM Jacks comments the ship artwork over

Rlaan Aidi - :) :) :) :) :) Beautiful! Excellent work as always!


i should post a pack with all content (means shield mesh+missing map and maybe LOD)
And maybe BFXM file and unit.cvs but this one are more than less sure!!!! :?

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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI

Postby Turbo » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:04 pm

loki1950 wrote:It is a needed model as there are no Rlaan civilian ships ATM

Given the Rlaan biological distinction between worker and warrior, we definitely need civilians ships and this one fits the Rlaan style very well.
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI

Postby Fendorin » Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:19 pm

here the source package

and a tentative to throught by mesher via UC.but it didn't work
DivShare File - AIDI_V2.zip

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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby pheonixstorm » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:43 pm

We need specs for this craft so it can be added. Size, mass, speed, etc...
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby Fendorin » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:06 am

Hi

Maybe the Specification of this ship may be close to the "Plowshare" space ship
less cargo space, a bit quicker, stronger hull, ?? (must be "iconic" Rlaan civilian ship)

for the size it must be bigger than a rlaan bomber .

unfortunetly i didn't remenber all specs of all ship ....
there is not "rules or standard chart specs made by contributor in order to compare/cross Specs for give accurate information?
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby Turbo » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:45 am

The wiki has several civilian rlaan ships that are not yet implemented...cargo lighters, shuttles, passenger liners, etc.
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby pheonixstorm » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:51 am

Sadly the wiki is horribly lacking on a great many details for the ships listed, even the completed ones...

Thanks for the information though Fendorin, that helps :)
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby pheonixstorm » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:38 pm

Ran it through xNormal to try and get a prt bake (didn't completely follow the directions) but here are the results.

Didn't take as long as I thought either, but that was on a 1024 setting (which is what the rest o the textures are on anyway).

This ship is almost ready to be added in just need to make sure its all put together correctly for the bfxm then tweak the units.csv for the stats.
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby klauss » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:35 pm

That PRT is broken, because it uses overlapping unwrapping - ie, it reuses texture areas for different triangles.

Just for those cases, I've been thinking about adding support for more than one unwrapping - one texture coordinate set for diffuse, spec, etc, and another for bakings (ambient occlusion, prt).
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby pheonixstorm » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:43 pm

Well, whatever works :) I didn't expect it to work right anyways, just a test to see how hard the AO/PRT bakes were as I was reading up on it I kept seeing references to baking taking several days, so didn't know how outdated that timeframe was. In any event though, xNormal is fairly easy to use so we can always test bake whatever we want :)
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby loki1950 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:25 pm

xNormal is very thread friendly ATM though I have a few that chuck put in the PU repo that took a few hours on my rig.But as klauss says the unwrap is critical,and not that trivial a process even for experienced blenderheads.

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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby pheonixstorm » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:37 pm

I most definitely am NOT an experienced blenderhead, but I am a novice gmaxian :lol:
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby pheonixstorm » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:32 pm

Here are the ingame screenshots of the Aidi
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby pheonixstorm » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:50 pm

After looking at the images more carefully I have no idea why the spec map is so overpowering on the image.
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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby loki1950 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:21 pm

Just grabbed the Aidi from the masters repo I will have a look at the unwrap and see if I can tweak it.


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Re: Propose Rlaan ship AIDI [NEEDS INTEGRATION]

Postby pheonixstorm » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:59 pm

the zip includes the master texture file in psd format thankfully, but so does the ct3000 which is the next model I am working on getting ready to view and provide in-game shots of.
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