Open Source 3D Space Flight Sim: Trade, Fight, Explore
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The new HK will most likely be a compromise between the old HK and the old GS. But come on, the GS is totally unbalanced, way too strong, way too fast, way too shielded. That's no fun, that's too easy going.I really really like the GalaxyGs can I make a request to "Not" take it out of the game.
My suggestion is:micheal_andreas_stahl wrote:I think now it's best. really if it's gunna have that many turret he speed would more like 300kps and 30 units of cargo space only.
That's what I possibly intended, but definetively not within the next release... let's all wait how z30's new HK will be, then we'll talk again (there'll be loads of balance things to talk about), okay?Solon wrote:We could make the current GalaxyGS non-spawning (so you can't capture one with a Paradigm or DraymanCVL) and make it available as a reward for one of the upcoming campaigns.
Surely it's best, but having the "best ship" in all manners (except of cargo space, haha) is truely boring, isn't it?MAS wrote:I think now it's best. really if it's gunna have that many turret he speed would more like 300kps and 30 units of cargo space only.
Yup, turrets are fun... but no need to have better stats then than a Galaxy. I'd make it a hit-and-run-ship and lower shields&reactor to 2, dismantle the front gun mounts so that you only can fight via turrets (makes it impossible to dogfight) and take away any missile mounts. This'd be rebalanced via targs ATTs - your turrets would hit much better then.S1G wrote:The whole reason I like it is for the turrets.
Make 3 of the 5 turrets small or milspec lasers and remove all forward guns. Makes flying it much harder if you cannot rely on your forward guns, and I like ships that need different piloting skillsAbout the GS, I'm still thinking about it
Not to worry - the GS will eventually make it's way in. I'm thinking 2 medium & 2 small turrets, just need someone to place them in a way that works & looks great.Dilloh wrote:Make 3 of the 5 turrets small or milspec lasers and remove all forward guns. Makes flying it much harder if you cannot rely on your forward guns, and I like ships that need different piloting skillsAbout the GS, I'm still thinking about it
Overall, it'd be a pity if Gosshawk's hard turret placement works vanished in the data nirvana
No No, you misunderstood me. though it's my fault.Dilloh wrote:Surely it's best, but having the "best ship" in all manners (except of cargo space, haha) is truely boring, isn't it?MAS wrote:I think now it's best. really if it's gunna have that many turret he speed would more like 300kps and 30 units of cargo space only.
Ah, okay. Exactly my thoughts. Let's put it into drydock, but not dismantle it so far.MAS wrote:I meant it's best taken out until it's rebalenced.
Oh come on, you never tried just to use turrets. It can be fun, if you have 5 turrets! Though I think I'll have to create such a ship on my own...MAS wrote:I'm not in favour of having no front fireing guns.
Exactly... much more sluggish...MAS wrote:If it's gonna have a larger shield and reactor it will have to manuver more sluggishly and will be slower and have less cargo room.
I'm not in favour of NOT having front firing weapons. I'm a Demon pilot remember. I would like five turrets AND front firing canons to amuse my self while theturrets are doing there job.Dilloh wrote:Oh come on, you never tried just to use turrets. It can be fun, if you have 5 turrets! Though I think I'll have to create such a ship on my own...
Yeah, do that instead of scrapping it.Dilloh wrote:Ah, okay. Exactly my thoughts. Let's put it into drydock, but not dismantle it so far.
I beg to differ. The Korens have a worse language.The only reason we won against the Japanese in WWII was because theyre the only people with a language stupider than ours.
This was just an idea. I don't think the concept will make it into game. However, I think the Galaxy GS fills the gap between fighter and capship. It should behave somewhat more like a capship then, which means lower maneuverability. Just think of how useless your front guns in a Paradigm are, you rely on your turrets then. Maybe reducing the GS front guns to one gun would be sufficient.I'm not in favour of NOT having front firing weapons. I'm a Demon pilot remember. I would like five turrets AND front firing canons to amuse my self while theturrets are doing there job.
Sure they are, that's what most people appreciate. Despite of that, there's nothing final in PU. If someone ever pops up with something better, anything can be replaced. Talking of full 3D cockpit interiors, for example.Oh, z30. The cockpits look as if they were dragged straight from WC.
Yes, they are - just fitted into PR. These are just placeholders fyi, so people know what the actual cockpits look like before the improved versions come alongmicheal_andreas_stahl wrote:
Oh, z30. The cockpits look as if they were dragged straight from wc.
Dilloh wrote:
EDIT: z30, suggest to also take in Turbo's steltek cockpit, as well as Gosshawk's capship cockpit concept. Better than nothing and still nice pieces of work, IMHO. I have both on my machine and can mail them to you if you like.
EDIT2: The sabre turret cockpit would, with some recoloring to brown color schemes, make a good kilrathi turret IMO, since we already have good "human" turret screens.
I'm with Andy on this one completely. I really like the GGS and although I agree with some slight to moderate changes to it's handling and performance I definitely do not want it to lose it's forward guns. Limit them IF you must but please don't take them away. A BIG part of the game is dogfighting, for many that is the game. Some of us don't want to be a missile launcher pilots (where's the fun in that?), we want GUNS. Personally I hate fighting from turrets. No forward guns means that when you're in a turret, your ship flies in a straight line, making you a really easy target. Making the turret a better AI is great (although I never had any problems in a GGS before with the turrets). You will need far better turrets if you are going to make it slower and less manoeuvreable. IF there was no forward guns then you would have to rely on the turrets and the ability to dodge incoming weapons fire. Take this away and what have you got?? Target practice for the AI. End result, one less ship for some people to fly.MAS wrote:Dilloh wrote:Oh come on, you never tried just to use turrets. It can be fun, if you have 5 turrets! Though I think I'll have to create such a ship on my own...
I'm not in favour of NOT having front firing weapons. I'm a Demon pilot remember. I would like five turrets AND front firing canons to amuse my self while theturrets are doing there job.
)I'm cutting down the speed to something a non-fighter ship of this size can believably have. Turret accuracy (formerly 25% for civilian ships) has been increased to 40% , though this just means ITTS kicks in more frequently.Zool wrote:Some of us don't want to be a missile launcher pilots (where's the fun in that?), we want GUNS. Personally I hate fighting from turrets. No forward guns means that when you're in a turret, your ship flies in a straight line, making you a really easy target. Making the turret a better AI is great (although I never had any problems in a GGS before with the turrets). You will need far better turrets if you are going to make it slower and less manoeuvreable. IF there was no forward guns then you would have to rely on the turrets and the ability to dodge incoming weapons fire. Take this away and what have you got?? Target practice for the AI. End result, one less ship for some people to fly.
(And please forgive my enthusiasm in making my point
Spirit & Hellcat's work actually - I tweaked some of the text display & shield/armor display placements. No idea on how it will look in very high res.Zool wrote:Nice work on the new cockpits and turret. How will they look in 1280x960?This is what I like to run my game in.
Okay okay okay guys... it was just an idea!Zool wrote:I definitely do not want it to lose it's forward guns.
Sure... i.e. rear turrets work exactly like bottom turrets, just for they have another angle, no make this should have...MAS wrote:Is it possible to put a limit on the movment of turrets
Any chance of a third mount specifically for a tractor beam. I hate having to give up missiles to mount one.Stock 2xguns & 2x missile launchers stay as is. This variant should have better radar though.
How you going to do the radar? Give it an inbuilt one? If so then make it an Omni, I don't use anything else.Two medium and two light turrets sounds about right. (Five plasmas did seem a bit excessive). Are you going to have fixed armour instead of buyable?Turrets down to 4 from 5 - and two of them will be small. This is basically a merchant ship frame, there is no ship of this class and size with 5 turrets. But shields & armor will be strong for a vessel of this type.
That's ok mate......just not one of your better ones...lolDilloh wrote:Okay okay okay guys... it was just an idea!Zool wrote: I definitely do not want it to lose it's forward guns.
