Vigilance (Purist Corvette)

Phlogios · Post by **Phlogios** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:12 pm

Oi mates.

I don't read the forums regularly anymore, since I have been very busy with school-related stuff, but I read it yesterday, and I made this ship today.

THANKS FENDORIN FOR GIVING ME SOMETHING TO PLAY WITH!

<3

Nano_Lite · Post by **Nano_Lite** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:25 pm

If you REALLY want something to play with, check out my Spanish Class notes. I draw ships in the margins O_O

I drew the concepts for my Titan and Toro ships in there.....

Phlogios · Post by **Phlogios** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:50 pm

@Nano_lite: Give me!

(Edit: forgotten word) EVEN if your ships don't fit in this game, I want to see them!

@Mostly myself I guess:P : I hope jackS reads this thread some time. He said he needed to talk to Fendorin about this ship, and I would like to know what's going on, since I made the model. This ship is still not exactly what Fendorin wanted (according to mails sent by him) but I'm waiting for him to send me more instructions. And if jackS has opinions, I want to hear them

Post by **loki1950** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:21 pm

Neat Phlogios an iron with attitude

you still have unwrap and texture it where the real work is

Enjoy the Choice

Phlogios · Post by **Phlogios** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:31 pm

All cred goes to Fendorin for drawing the concept

I just made the model ;D

EDIT: Read the original article including concept here: http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/forum ... php?t=8377

(Yes I know my model is a bit short

)

Post by **Fendorin** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:28 am

god dag
new drawing:

hej dÃ¥

Post by **loki1950** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:45 am

Going to make him work for that credit are you Fendorin

I like your color pattern highlights it's shape nicely

Enjoy the Choice

Phlogios · Post by **Phlogios** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:32 pm

I'm gonna throw away my model and start again, because I'm too stupid to figure out how to make the changes. I think I can do it, though.

Post by **Fendorin** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:48 pm

OK i can't wait ( and maybe plogios you'r so busy with bump mapping plan)

i make a little Vigilance new Purist corvette
heavy armoured and two anti spinal capital gun? or torpedo bay?
i don't know.

the texture is not final texture but already more advanced
and i don't know if purist for ''big'' unit use totaly white pattern or maybe 50/50 grey and white
i wait advertissement from Jacks

but i think the shape is good

Maybe more windows for purist? and more tag's indications on hull.

Tell me you r opinion and critics :

charlieg · Post by **charlieg** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:36 pm

Looking very nice. Can't wait to see the final texture.

Phlogios · Post by **Phlogios** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:43 pm

Oh snap! I forgot about the vigilance

I think it looks nice, but I think both the concept and the model could use a more, how shall I put this.. rotund body. The part between the bridge and the thrusters, that is. Another thing would be to use Ion thrusters instead of having a giant gas-guzzler running around and eating fuel. These exhausts should probably be blue, not yellow.

Oh, and since this is a big ship, it could definitely use more polygons. Nice interpretation though

Madawg · Post by **Madawg** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:26 pm

Looks very very good.
Good texturing work even if some darker areas are sometimes hard to read. But this might come from your normals, you might want to check your smoothing groups.
Can't wait to see more from you.

EDIT: I don't know if it's possible in the software you're using but could you try baking an ambiant occlusion in your diffuse just to see what it gives? It should make your model look more "solid".

Post by **Fendorin** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:03 am

hello

EDIT: I don't know if it's possible in the software you're using but could you try baking an ambiant occlusion in your diffuse just to see what it gives? It should make your model look more "solid".

what is this????
and how to for that?
put light behind model?

i never learn 3d or 3d program and i use wings 3d

but my real work is with gimp ( 90 percent)

Madawg · Post by **Madawg** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:50 pm

Ambient occlusion takes into account attenuation of indirect light caused by nearby geometry to create shadows. It usually makes the model looks more realistic.
I don't think you can do that in Wing 3D (although I never used it so I'm not sure of that). Maybe you can fake it with some skylight render or something of that kind. (Skylight is probably what has been used on the very first screenshot of this thread).

Baking it is just rendering it as a 2D texture (using your UVs) you can then add as a multiply layer in Gimp.

There's a free tool called xNormal that allows you to do that if you want to give it a try. For an optimal result, you have to make sure you don't have any overlapping in you UVs (except if it's for mirroring or stuff like this of course).

If you don't feel confident enough, maybe you can send me your model in a 3DS Max compatible format and I'll do it for you (it very fast). PM me if you want to do that.

Post by **Fendorin** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:57 am

Hello

the texture is better now (i hope)

And i try to make ambient light but i can t see a great difference (maybe i make mistake)

Two texture

ONE for Military purist:

and

SECOND for Homeland security "Expedition ship /Support Ship"

Post by **loki1950** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:49 pm

Nice clean look

Enjoy the Choice

Kalessin · Post by **Kalessin** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:20 am

Really nice

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:46 am

whoa... everyone's very productive lately

another sweet looking ship fendorin ^^

Post by **Fendorin** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:13 pm

for down load if you have idea for put turret or whatever torpedo bay or ( i don't know) you can make unit list and bfxm files(if you understand because me i m so stupid!!) for includes this ship

http://www.divshare.com/download/2761377-64b

Post by **Fendorin** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:48 pm

hello i improve the texturing for this ship

before this ship had 2 texture faction(purist and homeland securities) i lost the psd file then i propose just one faction + nice damage one
and i change the size of the window for be more according with corvette style-size
and a nice glow map too
and a colored spec map
and a "dusty" bump map with a lot of "choc"

miss the shield-mesh and the HUD image

DivShare File - VigilanceV2.zip

what it's look like with the "new texture pack":

Post by **chuck_starchaser** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:36 pm

I love this ship AND the texturing, but it kind of makes me forget about the war... With those sight-seeing decks and wood finish I feel like paying $2500+ for a pleasure cruise aboard it. Seriously; a full week of play time just sipping virtual margaritas. This is really pretty, and deserves better than getting scratched by a bullet.

Post by **Deus Siddis** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:07 pm

chuck_starchaser wrote:I love this ship AND the texturing, but it kind of makes me forget about the war... With those sight-seeing decks and wood finish I feel like paying $2500+ for a pleasure cruise aboard it. Seriously; a full week of play time just sipping virtual margaritas. This is really pretty, and deserves better than getting scratched by a bullet.

I think those sight seeing decks are actually lights, with only the bridge in the middle bow having viewports and the wood finish might be rust if you look carefully at the upper bow of the ship closely in the top pic.

Post by **chuck_starchaser** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:25 pm

If it's rust, it needs less specularity. Rust is diffuse; so wherever there's redness, to that extent there should be a drastic darkening in specular. Also, I think what I'm seeing here is that the specular texture is gray-scale (desaturated), and if so that's what makes the specularities look dielectric, so it looks like varnished wood rather than metal.

Post by **Deus Siddis** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:02 pm

Okay so rust has specular color but it is very dark then, right?

Post by **chuck_starchaser** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:20 pm

Actually, most metal oxides, if not all, are dielectrics; so they behave like non-metals, optically speaking. If they had any specularity, it would be dielectric specularity. Where things get more complicated is that some rusts of some metals occupy roughly the same volume as the metal itself, such as aluminum rust; while most rusts occupy larger volumes and are brittle, such as iron rust. The former form a thin, closed layer that protects the metal from further oxidation, while the latter form scales that trap water and accelerate oxidation. So, to represent aluminum oxide, in CineMut, you'd put clouds of non-zero "dielectric blend", and a fixed dielectric constant that suits aluminum oxide. Iron rust, however, because of all the scaling and stuff, forms a surface so irregular that, even if the chemical itself has dielectric specularity, the end result is a matte surface (diffuse only).
So, to put rust on a ferrous surface, you sprinkle some redness, and then take that redness and turn it into a mask to darken specular; and you'd probably want to darken specular all the way to zero. The only justification for not going to zero is that if a texture texel represents a square foot on the ship, within that square foot there might be some rusted and some non-rusted areas.

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Vigilance (Purist Corvette)

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pre-final texture for vigilance