Missile-Ammo remains 0

CtV · Post by **CtV** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:25 pm

hello,
i'm new too the game but found a nasty bug, propably.

I cheated some money, bought and upgraded a ship(derivative) and went to battle, where i found out, that my missiles weren't working. I headed back to a base were the upgrade-screen told me, that i have missiles, but 0 remaining units. I bought new missiles again, but they remained at 0.

Is it a bug or could there be any other reason why the missiles are unavailable? I'm glad it was only cheated money

greetz and thanks for the great game

bgaskey · Post by **bgaskey** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:41 pm

Hi. What version of the game are you using.

Wait. never mind. This is actually a feature. The missile bay will remain at 0 shots if you are trying to load missiles bigger than the size of the bay. Every ship has missile bays of different sizes and some are not big enough for missiles even if they are rated for them. Are you trying to use a large missile like a Friend or Foe?

If thats not your problem, we may have a real bug on our hands but I think a good fix would be to buy smaller missiles or a better bomber.

To confirm this, reply with missile type, version number, and ship type so I can check up

CtV · Post by **CtV** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:00 am

Ship: Derivative
Missile-Type: Image Recognition
v. 0.4.3 (i think that's the latest, isn't it?)

Friend/Foe missiles don't work either..
maybe it's really the size-issue.. but why can i buy those missiles for the ship, if i can't use them afterwards? I would call it a bug

Post by **loki1950** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:33 am

they should work and 0.4.3 is not the latest that is 0.5 beta which is almost ready for release so you might want to have a look at using the svn version as it will become the release version been some major improvements since 0.4.3 which is actually about 2 yrs old so here are the instructions for getting the latest http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/wiki/ ... eckout_SVN

Enjoy the Choice

CtV · Post by **CtV** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:19 am

oh great... I'll give it a try..

bgaskey · Post by **bgaskey** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:38 am

I think most of these data side glitches have been worked out of the system. In fact in newer builds the derivative is a fearsome bomber and my ship of choice. Both of those missiles are fairly big for their mounts and the derivative is a very small interceptor fighter. The 'beta' is much stabler than the 'stable' atm and there could be a new release within the week [fingers crossed].

loki always recommends the SVN but the beta release is alot easier on the casual user. he's a bit of a linux nerd, not saying i'm not but...

CtV · Post by **CtV** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:53 am

no problem... I'm studying computer science and i'm used to subversion

oh btw.. how big is the data4.x directory? It's leeching for over a hour and 1.6Gigs now.

CtV · Post by **CtV** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:37 am

wow... the 0.5beta really is a BIG step forward. looks totally diffrent.

bgaskey · Post by **bgaskey** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:28 pm

Yeah the data has grown obnoxiously enormous thanks to higher quality images. But the improvement is huge too. But the next release will be like 1.8 GB which could be a problem for people with slower DSL (like me

)

Post by **loki1950** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:16 pm

Not really as you already have it

just a mater of stripping the svn data base from a version so you can actually install it.Very easy as there is a subversion function for that purpose i currently do this on my windows side (Tortoise has the function export) so no need to download that 1.8 Gb again.And i imagine you could use the packaging scripts yourself but why bother

Enjoy the Choice

bgaskey · Post by **bgaskey** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:27 pm

but for windoze people who roll releases only, its gonna be another 2 gig DL. Not saying it will be a problem for me. I doubt I'll even DL a new release on linux, but I probably will for my mac (doesn't compile right and noone knows why

).

Miramor · Post by **Miramor** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:51 am

FWIW: this bug is definitely present in SVN, I've got a derivative and I can't use FoF missiles. Not that I've ever found FoF missiles particularly useful.

CtV · Post by **CtV** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:26 am

Miramor wrote:FWIW: this bug is definitely present in SVN, I've got a derivative and I can't use FoF missiles. Not that I've ever found FoF missiles particularly useful.

with the actual 0.5 SVN I could use the missiles. Only one is loaded at a time, but I could use them....

but i have another problem: the "request docking clearance"-key isn't working. I read it has changes from 0 to Ctrl+0 but it doesn't work the one or other way...

Post by **jackS** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:16 am

CtV wrote:
Miramor wrote:FWIW: this bug is definitely present in SVN, I've got a derivative and I can't use FoF missiles. Not that I've ever found FoF missiles particularly useful.
with the actual 0.5 SVN I could use the missiles. Only one is loaded at a time, but I could use them....

but i have another problem: the "request docking clearance"-key isn't working. I read it has changes from 0 to Ctrl+0 but it doesn't work the one or other way...

it's alt-0 in SVN
if you are unsure what a particular keybinding is on your particular version, or if you have an interesting keyboard, please take a look at vegastrike.config
The keybindings are in more or less plain text in the XML

bgaskey · Post by **bgaskey** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:58 pm

but i have another problem: the "request docking clearance"-key isn't working. I read it has changes from 0 to Ctrl+0 but it doesn't work the one or other way...

Sorry about that. I think I said ctrl-0

whatch1 · Post by **whatch1** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:36 pm

Combo for request permision to dock is alt-0

CtV · Post by **CtV** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:59 am

yes, it's alt+0... i saw it when i was going to change it..

but another question:

the mouse-buttons... i have a 5 button mouse and want to use them...

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<!-- #warp_mouse inv_warp_mouse inv_glide_mouse glide_mouse -->
<bind mouse="0" player="0" button="0" modifier="none" command="FireKey" />
<!-- #end -->
<bind mouse="0" button="1" modifier="none" command="MissileKey" />
<bind mouse="0" button="2" modifier="none" command="ABKey"/>
<bind mouse="0" button="3" modifier="none" command="AccelKey"/>

<bind mouse="0" button="4" modifier="none" command="DecelKey"/>

only button 0(left mousebutton) and button 2 ("normal" right mousebutton) seem to work... does anyone have a workaround for this?

Post by **loki1950** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:23 am

5 Button so it would probably map out this way

left=0,right=1,middle=2,wheel-up=3.wheel-down=4, hose are for a standard wheel- mouse if the wheel tilts and an other two for left and right then come any extra buttons hope this helps you figure out a binding that works for you an other wrinkle if you are a *nixian does the X-sever recognize the buttons if not they must be defined in Xorg.config as well i have that problem myself a extra button and a tilt wheel that the X-sever does not recognize haven't got'n around to hacking my Xorg.config

Enjoy the Choice

Post by **ace123** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:35 am

Usually buttons 4 and 5 are mapped to scroll wheel... I believe this is also the case on windows.

To get access to extra buttons either go 6 or 7 I think. Vega Strike claims to support 15 buttons, but I don't know if SDL supports that many.

It could also be that the "extra" two buttons send the same message as scroll wheel, in which case you probably have to just live with it.

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