Saving not problem-free (ships) ?

[Str]

Hello to all firstly great game

It it just me or is saving a ship not as problem-free as it seems?

First my ship (llama.begin) began to roll to the left really slowly.... to the right was no problem... I bought a new Overdrive and a Basic Repair and the Problem was gone! I had also some other "long time damages"...

And now, suddenly i have 6 Overdrives on my ship! One Overdrive 3 which is in use, and 5 overdrive 5 which arent useable nor sellable nor wahtever... they are just "there"...

i've also separated the code in my ships file:

Overdrive;15085.764648;1;4.000000;4.000000;1.000000;1.000000;;false}{mult_overdrive06;upgrades/
Overdrive;128000.000000;5;18.000000;18.000000;1.000000;1.000000;;true}{reactor06;upgrades/Reactors/

is it safe to just remove the second line? i mead, the overdrive doesn't do anything (just i am not be able to buy another overdrive instead of my overdrive 3 which is "under" level 6 -.-) but i dont want such a thing on my ship...

cu

[loki1950]

Welcome Str editing that file should do the trick you might prefer to use the tool in this thread http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/forum ... php?t=7143 so you know the format is not borked when you save if you have further questions and or problems just post have fun

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[Str]

hm... i've tried to use this csv editor, but if i want to open a file i get

"Index Out of Range[Col 128 Row 1]"

or, with the windows version and wine, "Failed to load file" or so....

I use a GNU/Linux System, Debian Testing, the svn revision 11716 (not sure, maybe some "revision versions" less)...

i'll try some of the other csv editors announced in Developer Tools & User Utilities section

[loki1950]

Just use Open Office's Calc then saves some downloading just take notice that you save with the right delimiter this may help http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/forum ... 1214#91214

Enjoy the Choice

[Str]

it worked =) just that i'd to use "Unicode UTF8" instead of just "Unicode"... maybe this was renamed in OpenOffice?

Anyway, i was able to remove the overdrives, and it loaded fine..

I've seen this lines in my Llama.begin.csv:

Shield_Back_Bottom_Right
<- here's nothing
Shield_Back_Top_Right
600.000000
Shield_Front_Top_Right
600.000000
Shield_Front_Bottom_Right
600.000000

it this intented to behave this way?^^

And some offtopic question:
As I understood, the economy is dynamic: But if i trade Industrial Gems from a mining station to an oceanic planet, the prices seems to be very static.. the reasons could be, that theire are no "NPC Traders", so that the prices could change: I'm at the moment the only Person, how could change the prices when i'm trading; am i'm right?

Anyway, thanks

[loki1950]

The economy is spoused to be dynamic but is a work in progress and not in full operation ATM so muddle through.

as for the bottom right shield not sure have a look at the Llama.blank in the units folder to see if it is the same if not then the llama.begin may have been corrupted at some point.

Enjoy the Choice

[Str]

hm...

in the units.csv none of the shield_x_y_z variables "contain a number" (not sure how to say that)...

But if I look at the ~/.vegastrike/serialized_xml/player files, which seem to contain every ship i've ever used even if it was just in use for 5 minutes (testing with not-so-much money ^_^)... I looked through this files, and a dodo which i've used for 5 minutes has:

Shield_Back_Bottom_Right

Shield_Back_Top_Right
75.000000
Shield_Front_Top_Right
75.000000
Shield_Front_Bottom_Right
75.000000

In my own Savegames, my Dostoevsky also behaves this way, but my llama's and my dostoevsky's shields work pretty good... and because the dodo was just about 5 minutes in use -->

sorry for my bad english :/

[loki1950]

No problem about bad English as long as i can figure out what you mean if i can't (make a wrong assumption)let me know looks like we may have a bug in the save game function then or the definition for quad shields as i see it thx for the report

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