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Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:03 am
by RedAdder
Did do nothing (except maybe colliding with klkk base for a second?) while the base was fighting other ships that had collided with it. I almost had no kills and then the LIHW attacked me, a faction i had not even seen before. FYI, I wasn't leaving the starting system much and avoided kills, and now I ended up with 6 more kills, many from collisions. I guess I'll have to leave the system now, or break the immersion and go back one savegame. Or hunt a lot of pirates? :mrgreen:

Re: Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:19 am
by loki1950
. Or hunt a lot of pirates? :mrgreen:
Actually shooting Luddites will get you better factional relations they are the only faction that everyone hates :wink: shooting pirates will increase the number of LIHW on your tale :lol: as they have some ties to the pirates.

Enjoy the Choice :)

Re: Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:28 am
by CLoneWolf
"I worked my ass off for this ship! Now I'm gonna work yours over!" :twisted:

Re: Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:21 am
by RedAdder
So the .05 means that killing a pirate spreads to LIHW, while killing an LIHW is welcomed by the pirates (-.05) ?

Or do I have it the wrong way around?

Re: Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:00 am
by Keller
Your relations with any faction are a decimal between -1 (the worst) and +1 (the best). Any positive adjustments in attitude for killing a ship is good, any negative bad.

Hope This Helps,

Re: Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:07 pm
by peter
loki1950 wrote:
. Or hunt a lot of pirates? :mrgreen:
Actually shooting Luddites will get you better factional relations they are the only faction that everyone hates :wink: shooting pirates will increase the number of LIHW on your tale :lol: as they have some ties to the pirates.

Enjoy the Choice :)
The Uln like Luddites (0.05). They don't hate anybody (all their relations are >= 0), so I guess the only way to improve relations with them (short of editting the save file, of course) is F1 chat, or doing missions in Uln systems. Do regular mission-computer missions (other than ones to kill people they like) at planets in an Uln system improve relations, or does it have to be from an Uln station, or is it only bar missions, or what? I've looked for AdjustRelation() calls in data/modules, but I haven't spent enough time reading the code to figure out which code goes with what missions. I just know there are some AdjustRelations calls in the missions code.

The best way to find lots of luddites to kill is to find a clean sweep mission, preferably two in the same system. Get some good long-range weapons, like the Microwave Laser, which is ideal for killing lots of weak ships.

Re: Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:17 pm
by KillerB
I took ONE smegging mission on an Uln planet, and went from being the Shlimazel Scurge to being the Uln's hero...only now the Rllan and the LIHW and the Andolians and the Kllk all hate me!
Even though I bagged a couple of Uln Gleaners and a Yeoman WHILE I was doing the mission :?

Re: Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:37 pm
by energyman76b
kill pirates. A lot. And Uln. Everybody loves you.

Afer a while Forsakken will start to hate you. Kill an Aera - since you have killed douzends of pirates the single aera will not hurt your standings much. Forsakken love you again.

Continue the cycle.

Never ever kill Forsakken. If you kill Forsakken, LIHW will start to hate you. Killing LIHW will make the rest angry.

Re: Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:26 am
by domi693
Yeah. Do not kill Forsaken. I managed to get the LIHW to like me again, but the Forsaken don't seem to forgive and forget.....

Re: Man, now the LIHW hates and the rest of the world as well!

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:52 pm
by KillerB
Uh oh...I got tired of getting shot at by the LIHW and the Rllan and I started shooting back. So much for plan 'A'. I guess I'll just go Psycho. It's what I do best anyhow :P