In need of ship models

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In need of ship models

Postby Beowulf » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:06 am

To get this mod started I will need 3D models for the following ships:

- TIE Fighter, Z-95 Headhunter and Nebulon B frigate (any other medium size capital ship able of carrying a similar number of fighters into battle would do as well).
I'm getting my hands dirty on the Z-95 myself at the moment.

- Y-Wing and TIE Bomber
- Delta transport, Lambda shuttle and the freighter from X-Wing
- X-Wing, A-Wing and TIE Interceptor
- Lancer Frigate, Carrack Cruiser and Loronar Cruiser
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Postby charlieg » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:30 am

You may be able to get a few of the models (X-wing at least) from the Star Wars TA mod:
http://spring.clan-sy.com/wiki/SWTA

Whilst they may not be final solutions (probably too low poly etc) they could be good temporary models allowing you to make progress until you find somebody to provide better models.
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Postby charlieg » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:33 am

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Postby Dilloh » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:40 am

If models from other games help, I'd start digging for X-Wing Alliance which IMO has the most sophisticated models.

And if you're in for some custom ships, Darksaber's XWA Ultimate Craft Pack brings them to you - among with some Episode 1 2 3 ships.
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Postby Beowulf » Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:10 pm

I think I'll start by asking the X-Wing Alliance Upgrade team if they allow us to use their models under the GPL. If they say no I'll ask the SWTA developers. Their models are relatively low detail but surely better than anything I'm capable of doing myself right now. Thanks :)
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Postby Beowulf » Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:20 am

I sent a mail to Darksaber yesterday, so no so far...
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Postby Dilloh » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:04 am

Beowulf, just saw this and thought it could be useful:
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Star_Wars_Capitol_Ships_Fleet;82721
Obviously someone managed to port XWA ships to BC, which also uses freeware modelling tools - you could ask the author for the license as well as some tips.
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Postby Beowulf » Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:54 pm

Hm, if these are the models that came with X-Wing Alliance I doubt it's legal to use them anywhere but in X-Wing Alliance, especially if you don't own the game. So I don't see how we could use them without the risk of getting sued (there is a very small risk that LukasArts sues us anyway since crafts like the X-Wing, the TIE Fighter etc. are their intellectual property---I doubt though that they are stupid enough to sue their fans over something like that).
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Postby Dilloh » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:17 am

Yeah, that's what I meant... ask the guy who made the pack about the license permissions he had to obtain.

Besides that, I doubt that you'll have trouble for you're not working on a commercial game. The only problem could be that the whole X-Wing series is still for sale, and somebody @ LucasArts could get the impression that this game will be a competitor to the games being sold.
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Postby Beowulf » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:50 am

I just asked the SWTA people for permission to use their models and they turned me down. They are not willing to give their models away freely. They would however be willing to share them if we would return anything of equal value (which we cannot, otherwise I wouldn't have asked in the first place...). Though I respect their decision I think it's a sad thing that not everybody embraces the spirit of the GPL...
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Postby Dilloh » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:57 am

Well, the SWTA guys don't model for a game under GNU/GPL/whatever, so it is indeed their work and their decision. There are other games out there which have star wars mods, so just google around and you might find some.
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Postby Beowulf » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:02 am

Good news: I wrote an email to the creator of the Warlords mod for Homeworld 2 and he is willing to let us use his excellent models. These include:
Clawcraft
A9 interceptor
Assault gunboat
I7 howlrunner
Missile boat
preybird
Tie avenger
Tie bomber
tie defender
tie droid
tie fighter
tie interceptor
tie phantom
tie raptor
tie scimitar
tie sentinal
tie vanguard

assault shuttle
assault transport
corellian corvette
corellian heacy corvette
corellian gunship
corellian heavy gunship
corellian ligt corvette
corellian patrol boat
escort transport
guardian light cruier
lamba shuttle
skipray blastboat
system patrol craft

Bayonet cruiser
carrack cruiser
corellian light frigate
corellian heavy frigate
dreadnaught
eidolon cruiser
excot carrier
galleon
corellian heavy frigate
corellian missile frigate
lancer frigate
loronar strike cruiser
nebulon b frigate
nebulon b-2 frigate

acclamator asault ship
acclamator II star frigate
corellian destroyer
dominator destroyer
harrow destroyer
Imperator I
Imperator II
Imperator III subclass
Venator destroyer
Victory I
Victory II
Victory III modified
watchkeeper destroyer

Praetor Cruiser
Implacable cruiser
Titan Cruiser
Tyrant MIssile Cruiser
Allegiance Destroyer

Venegence SSD
Sovereign SDN
Executor SDN
Armada Battleship

bouy
cruiser yard
destroyer yard
figter factory
golan I
golan II
golan III
gravwell mine
gun turret
perimeter defense
ion platform
heavy missile platform
missile platform
XQ-1 platform
research platform
shield generator
torpedo sphere

combat utility vehcile
constrction ship
ecm probe
factory ship (ARC hammer)
freighter
hyperspace probe
mining ship
modular taskforce cruiser
mole miner
probot
proximity sensor
repair droid
world devastator

cloakshape
ewing
kwing
r41
twing
xwing
xjwing
z95

agave picket
marauder corvette
warrior gunship
ranger corvette

assault frigate
balarus frigate
cc7700
cc9600
corona
liberator
majestic
mc40a
mc40b
mc60
quasar fire
sacheen

bothan assault cruiser
battledragon
nebula/defender destroyer
KDY republic
republic
MC80liberty
mc80wingless
mc80a
mc80
mc90
rejuevenator

modified super frieghter
bulwark BC
dauntless
homeone
mon remonda
mediator
strident
viscount

ferret
hajen

These are just the ships for the Imperial and Rebel factions, there are even more ships from other factions. It will be a lot of work to adapt these models to vegastrike, but still faster than if I had to make all of them myself :)
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Postby charlieg » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:35 am

Great news! :D
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Postby Dilloh » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:44 am

now that's a list... should save about 2 years of dev time...
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Postby Beowulf » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:55 am

At least two years :)

As far as I can see right now there are just three important ships missing:

* Y-Wing
* A-Wing
* DX-9 Stromtrooper Transport

Didn't ethereal walker have an excellent model of the A-Wing? I remember seeing renders of it somewhere on this forum a few years ago...
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