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Valdore model

Postby tillias » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:36 pm

Ok, here we go ;-)
Had some free time today, get all mounting points for Romulan Valdore class. All pictures from "Nemesis" movie.
Of course I will add some ( two or three ) romulan plasma or photon torpedoes. All other weapons will be controlled by player upgrades.

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Postby tillias » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:38 pm

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Postby Louis Wu » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:12 am

Reposted from http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthrea ... adid=75589


Romulan design philosophy has long relied on visually impressive starships and intimidating size as weapons in the arsenals of their fleet. Although the tradition of incorporating a "Bird of Prey" in the hull (a practice dating back to the 2150's or earlier), such markings had little effect on the enemies which the Empire faced in the late 24th century -- most notably the Jem'Hadar. Although the D'deridex-class Warbird was effective in its occasional encounters with the Federation and the Klingons, it found itself at a severe disadvantage once the Romulans joined the Dominion War in late 2374. Outclassed in terms of weaponry, hindered by its massive, underpowered bulk, the D'deridex proved to be too inflexible for all-out interstellar combat.

The Romulan High Command realized these shortcomings almost immediately after its entrance into the war, and Praetor Neral quickly ordered the construction of a new class of warbird using the most advanced technologies available to the Empire. Despite a rushed design process and a breakneck construction pace, the new Valdore-class launched too late to see any action in the Dominion War; indeed, the first ships were not launched until two years after the end of the war, in 2377.
As the new pride of the Romulan fleet, the Valdores were a key piece in the political turmoil when Reman soldier Shinzon seized control of the government in 2379. When loyalist and reactionary members of the Romulan fleet engaged Shinzon's flagship, the Scimitar, the Valdore's reputation was permanently tarred. Fighting alongside Starfleet's latest in advanced hardware, the Sovereign-class USS Enterprise-E, the two Valdore-class warbirds were both disabled within minutes after entering combat, while the Enterprise was able to maintain in continuous, single combat for nearly 20 minutes, sustaining massive hull damage yet still remaining operational.

In the aftermath of this embarrassment, the High Command went into a panic. With their best warships utterly outperformed, they went back to the drawing board, eventually developing the D'vorx-class warbird. The existing Valdores in service were relegated to low-priority missions and all production halted. Today, only a small handful remain in service, and are a relatively rare sight.

Type: Heavy Cruiser

Dimensions: Length, 603.57 meters; Beam, 908.32 meters; Draft, 113.10

meters; Decks, 24

Mass: 3,905,000 metric tons

Accommodation: 83 officers; 782 enlisted; 4,700 troops

Power Plant: One 4,500+ Cochrane artificial quantum singularity feeding

two nacelles; 8 Type-III impulse fusion powerplants

Performance: 6,800 m/s^2 (sublight); Warp 7 (cruise); Warp 9
(maximum); Warp 9.4 for 24 hours (burst)

Armament: 4 Class-VII heavy disruptor cannons (fwd, fixed); 12 Class-VI

disruptor cannons; 6 single-fire torpedo launchers; 1 plasma torpedo
turret; 900 photon torpedoes; 20 plasma torpedoes

Defenses: Standard shields (4.4 exajoules); Duranium hull armor (23 centimeters); Standard cloaking device

Source: Star Trek: Renaissance "Appendix B: Allied and Threat Force Spacecraft"
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Postby tillias » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:07 pm

Well, this is good information! But be very very accurate and careful with internet.
Don't rely on it much. Valdore is a very nice ship, very strong and powerful. If you've seen "Nemesis" movie, you know that Shinzon didn't want to destroy Enterprise-E. If he wanted to do this there will be 2-3 full salvos enough to make dust from Sovereign class ;-)
The problem is exactly because people in internet make tons of speculations which can't be proved or disproved.

My goal is to make all ships exactly as we see them in show. And let the players will upgrade them manually in order to make them stronger/faster/better. Just like they dream to see them. I always put additional slots for future upgrades and think how strong will be ship with maximum of upgrades. That's why it takes huge ammount of time to prepare each ship.

But let's return to Valdore.
Yeah, Valdore isn't as strong and powerful as Sovereign is. But it's a good ship. And when we will make upgrades working in VegaTrek, Valdore with some good upgrades will beat standart ( non-upgraded ) Sovereign class for sure :-)
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Postby Adonis » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:53 pm

Just FYI, Romulan ships use Artificial Quantum Singularity Reactors (quantum singularity is the scientific name for black holes) as main powerplants.
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Postby klauss » Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:10 pm

OT: A quantum singularity is not the name for a black hole. The latter is a real physical term, the former a sci-fi term. More specifically, quantum singularity is the equivalent of a gravitational singularity which, in turn, is not a black hole either - a gravitational singularity is a class name given to a group of phenomena of which a black hole is a part of. There are other kinds of singularities, like naked singularities, ring singularities (though they're also a kind of black hole), etc.
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Postby tillias » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:18 pm

Has anybody seen Romulan or Klingon main reactor shemes? I wonder how they look like... Maybe some freakish "sphere" or "pyramide"?
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Postby Louis Wu » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:44 pm

I can't think of the episode name. It's TNG. The Enterprise and a Romulan Warbird are trapped in time...everyone except Captian Picard, Jordi and Roe.

In that episode they spend a lot of time in the Romulan engine room. I will look for a diagram.


Also in Star Trek 4 there are several shots of Scotty in the comandered bird of prey engine room.
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Postby Louis Wu » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:56 pm

Extream Close up of a romulan quantum singularity power core.



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