First video is uploaded.

BradMick · Post by **BradMick** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:29 pm

Thanks to Chuck, the first video i did over basic modeling is up. its big, 375 meg (i need to find a way to shrink it...virtual dub didnt do such a great job at all) video and covers rapid prototyping. basically using really simple shapes to build a model for the purposes of having something to see that you can further refine. i plan on recording the next video today, which will go into the more advanced technigues for finish modeling.

heres the wiki page where its hosted.

http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/wiki/ ... odel_Ships

John Cordell · Post by **John Cordell** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:33 pm

Excellent Brad :wink:

Post by **chuck_starchaser** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:20 am

Great stuff. Watched it a third time; I have to develop an a equivalent set of techniques in Blender. Some don't seem to have an equivalent; like it seems in Ligthwave mirroring is a snap. In Blender I have to select, Shift-D to duplicate, mesh menu Mirror-X-Global, X to constrain movement to the x axis, move the mirrored copy, zoom in and move multiple times to match points around the zero line, enter to accept placement, then select all the point pairs near the center, S(cale)-X-0 to remove any small displacements and cause them to overlap, join them with F9-Remove Duplicates button, and then fix the now inverted normals in the new half with the Recalculate Normals Outside button.

BradMick · Post by **BradMick** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:47 am

ouch...

Post by **klauss** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:01 am

Although you make them sound annoyingly time-consuming, all steps except the "make the points match" are blazingly fast if you know your hotkeys. There must be a way to match the points quickly... something to do with aligning... I'll take a minute this weekend and try to figure out a way.

charlieg · Post by **charlieg** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:32 am

chuck_starchaser wrote:In Blender I have to select, Shift-D to duplicate, mesh menu Mirror-X-Global, X to constrain movement to the x axis, move the mirrored copy, zoom in and move multiple times to match points around the zero line, enter to accept placement, then select all the point pairs near the center, S(cale)-X-0 to remove any small displacements and cause them to overlap, join them with F9-Remove Duplicates button, and then fix the now inverted normals in the new half with the Recalculate Normals Outside button.

Really it shouldn't be that hard. A quick google for 'mirroring in blender' turned up results like this:
http://ash.webpark.sk/mirror_eng.htm

I think you just need to find the right resource.

You could try asking on these forums:
http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums ... _id=295168

Post by **chuck_starchaser** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:14 pm

Thanks; I'll have to try out that script.

Post by **mkruer** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:13 pm

Now all we need is a Blender and MAX versions LOL

BradMick · Post by **BradMick** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:24 pm

it doesn't matter what package you're using...the technique is what folks should be focusing on. tehcniques are transferable.

rockstar · Post by **rockstar** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:01 am

HOLY SHIT... that's the first thing I thought about the first 2 minutes. Actuallay I'm not in a situation to watch the whole vid, but a commented tutorial in such a resolution is enough to repeat myself... HOLY SHIT!
Great work Brad!

I guess a 800x600 res would be more than enough and would also lower size but anyways. I'm sure to enjoy the last 13 minutes tomorrow.

Dunno what to say else... awesome is not the word in my lifestyle to describe your work, Brad. Something like MUHA ROCK'N'ROLL would fit much better ^^

BTW. I guess it's time to say how much I'm impressed about chuck's work. As far as I got it, chuck is not that experience with 3d stuff, but already got a cockpit looking far better than all the shit I produced until now. My respect! (Juste mentioned it here 'cause of being too lazy writing 2 posts :p)

Edit:
Be aware of visting Germany... you'll never now when you get drunk, how much you get drunk and if you get out of this shit alive ^^

Post by **chuck_starchaser** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:27 am

Thanks. I'll make sure there's a beer-cooler behind the seat of the Hellcat. Come to think of it, a freezer compartment for ice-cream would be bad either. And for myself I need an ashtray...

rockstar · Post by **rockstar** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:45 pm

Could you model me a set of custom cockpits, chuck? All with ashtray and beer holder? This would feel more realistic to me ^^

I finally got the time - and a clear head - to watch the whole stuff and I'm even more impressed than before. A smaller res - as mentioned in my post above - would definitly decrease size, but as I had to realise you would miss the details. Didn't thought about the 4 window layout Brad used for Lightwave. So forget about what I said and stick to the 1024x768.

Btw. I 've seen you runnig 3 different IM clients, Brad. This is not unusual, but I personally hate a shitload of different windows. Did you hear of GAIM? A simple opensource multi-protocal client covering all the common IMs at once, using far less performance and tab browsing for chat windows. Made me fell much more comfortable with the chatting stuff. If you have not given it a try yet, maybe take some time and visit another great sourceforge project at http://gaim.sourceforge.net/