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Okay, we need a manager.

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What should be worked on? What is a priority? I am not qualified enough to say. I tried to work as best as I could and hope I achieved something...

The manager should:

* Decide what needs to get done next.

* Curb fanboy/fangirlism about one particular feature ("no, we're not going to implement a custard pie launcher you can buy from a clown base, i don't care if you've already written the whole code and art for it. Please work on something sensible instead.")

* Resolve code conflicts: if there is more than one implementation of a model or a feature, the manager should pick which one works best, or try to get the best bits out of each.

* Remember that "manager" does not mean "dictator" nor "primary contributor". If you want to spin it that way on your resume, fine, but keep it to that.
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Re: Okay, we need a manager.

Post by MamiyaOtaru »

spiritplumber wrote:if there is more than one implementation of a model.
ahahaha.. :D

The manager has to be someone who's interested in doing stuff. It's no good to hand it off to someone who hasn't been involved. ATM you are the only really viable candidate.
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Is this in regards to WCU or Privateer beta 1.1 or something else.
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WCU. I am having problems merging it with the 1.1 patch because the patch comes as one monolithic file and won't let me install it anywhere else except for the Priv directory... is there any way I can get to just the files?
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CVS comes to mind.
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Post by mkruer »

Update:

I have contacted SoruceForge on SVN implementation. SVN is a way better version then CVS, and will make synchronizing the project a little easier, not to mention making model consolidation a hell of a lot easier.

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=d ... group_id=1
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Post by chuck_starchaser »

That'll be a welcome change! Even after having used cvs 3 or 4 times I still find it intimidating. I'm sure a lot of people must have considered contributing until they faced having to learn it.
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Post by spiritplumber »

That's how I felt exactly :) which is why i set up a code file and data file back then.

The next upload will be monolithic as it exists to sync with 1.1, but only the next upload will do that.
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In my experience, BerliOS is a good SVN host.
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I hate the CVS, always have, always will. That’s why I set up an account on dsource. unfortunately I crash their server twice, with mass updates, and they really locked it down after the site upgrade to the point only I can use it. Anyhow, the cool thing about the SVN is that there is a program called TurtleSVN which will integrate directly into the windows shell, and man does that make it easy to get and apply updates. But right now it’s a waiting game. Hopefully they will have something working in the next few months, but I am not holding my breath. If you want we can try to move back to dsource if it was easier. Just let me know, otherwise I will let the WCU repository die and go back to being just a Rylix repository.
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Halleck wrote:In my experience, BerliOS is a good SVN host.
You know someone that wants to set up an SVN repository for us?
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Post by Halleck »

FYI, TurtleSVN was based heavily off a little program known as TurtleCVS. :wink:

So it's not a reason to choose SVN over CVS, but there are enough other reasons to do so.
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Halleck wrote:In my experience, BerliOS is a good SVN host.
You know someone that wants to set up an SVN repository for us?
I'm not really involved with this project, so I don't think I'd be the right person to do it. It's not that big a deal though, BerliOS is kinda like a german sourceforge.
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mkruer wrote:
Halleck wrote:In my experience, BerliOS is a good SVN host.
You know someone that wants to set up an SVN repository for us?
I got myself a web-site, primarily to help VS. Got two gigs of space, so if you want to set it up there (www.deeplayer.com), I can probably set you up as admin. I've no idea how to set up SVN, myself, though; first time I hear of it.
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Post by crouton »

I'm still willing to volunteer as a 'manager'.

And it's good to see some traffic back in this board.. it was dead for upwards of two months.
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Post by spiritplumber »

My fault for disappearing ^^,

I'm happy people are picking up this and that bit of the project... I have been hired to setup a beowulf cluster at a local college, so I'll be busy for this weekend (soonest it's done soonest I get paid).

Sorry for the mess with the last upload!
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Post by crouton »

I'll sit down this weekend and come up with a scratch list of things that need to be looked at, worked on, backburner'd, etc...

One thing I'd personally love to see is WCU as a standalone installer/zip. This would make installation, bug-reporting, patching, etc.. easier and would bring in more fans/testers (easier than current system.) This would take a bit of work, but I think the positives would outweigh the negatives. And it isn't a huge break with the PR project's ongoing work, as we can simply roll up our changes with theirs and release a new patch or full installer.


It's good to see some activity again, even if we can only make baby steps. Every little bit counts. :)
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