time for 0.3.9?

Post by **hurleybird** » Mon May 19, 2003 3:53 am

With all the new imprvoments (in-system jump, comms, graphics, etc) it would make sense to have a new release. I know that it would take time to package, but on the other hand a new release could draw a fair amount of attention to VS, as well as build up anticipation for 0.4.0... Would a new release be possible or no?

Post by **hellcatv** » Mon May 19, 2003 4:56 am

well certainly not before finals...but possibly in a few weeks
just depends if we can get the scripts stabilized by then...currently they need a lot more debugging

Duality · Post by **Duality** » Mon May 19, 2003 6:18 am

As for the remodeling the fighters.... I might probably be the only one doing the rest of the remodeling.

Bazza · Post by **Bazza** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:23 am

I for one would love to see a new release. Although it would mean another 8 hour session on my dial-up connection

Post by **hellcatv** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:34 am

ok well I didn't knwo the support for it was so strong
part of the reason I've been waiting aside from being so busy is that I was waiting for some new batch of art to come in--though I'm not sure if the art will arrive in the near future or not

Runner · Post by **Runner** » Mon May 19, 2003 8:00 am

The last realease is by now exactly 5 month and one day old! I would also strongly support a new release - actually that's something I was looking for very much in the last time!

Don't you use some kind of buildsystem or at least some scripts whom you just tell which directory to take and which ones to exclude? Would make realeases kinda easy to do.

by, Runner

Post by **hellcatv** » Mon May 19, 2003 8:30 am

the problem is not releasing (that takes a good day to get right cus we always have a bug or something in the last minute)

it's dealing with the thousands of support requests if we were to release code we knew was not finished.... (the C++ code should be working but the python dynamic universe code is not polished...course we could release with the old scripts but what's the point!)
there are certain areas that are not tested and are still marked with FIXME

it won't be a very polished release and would end up reducing the popularity of VS...we want to have high quality releases...and that means well tested stuff that isn't supposed to crash--so we can deal with people on a per-bug basis

this isn't like the WinME release where MS shoves it out so they can start working on 2k

scheherazade · Post by **scheherazade** » Mon May 19, 2003 10:23 am

and it would be useful if people would adjust the vehicles to work with vwep...

get rid of built in gun shapes form the unit mesh

and properly allign the gun slots to the mesh.

-schehearazade

Post by **zaydana** » Mon May 19, 2003 12:00 pm

What VS Needs is some sort of Build Script... say a script on somebody's PC that is programmed to run once every tuesday night to checkout the CVS, then build it and release whatever was in CVS that night as the Development Binaries, complete with debugging and one of those things that sends bugs back to a central server (like in mozilla).

I could set it up if i had the connection / harware, but I don't. But that would be real cool, cos then instead of worrying bout making a packae every time something happened, you would just need to worry bout making sure the code in CVS works on a tuesday night, and only make occasional major releases. Sound plausible?

The Flame being lazy · Mon May 19, 2003 12:40 pm

I would support a release marked as "BETA (NO SUPPORT! SERIOUSLY!)" as long as it doesnt take more than 2 hours away from actual work. Is this realistic?

scheherazade · Post by **scheherazade** » Mon May 19, 2003 1:28 pm

well, anyone who really wants it can download the CVS and play it

as for a release, why make one if you're short of your objectives, and you'll be there soon.

-scheherazade

Duality · Post by **Duality** » Tue May 20, 2003 4:45 am

I wonder if the flight engine will be polished in the next realease.

The old ones kinda driving me crazy. :o

Post by **hellcatv** » Tue May 20, 2003 6:24 am

can you *please* quantify your statement

what bugs you about the old flight engine

I thought it was perfect so I have made no changes except to some of the visual FX

Duality · Post by **Duality** » Tue May 20, 2003 6:53 am

I thought it was perfect so I have made no changes except to some of the visual FX

Ok, never mind that the flight engine bugged me.. but.. Just to double check, the drift indicator.. did you implement it in yet?

Post by **hellcatv** » Tue May 20, 2003 7:11 am

well the drift indicator is on my TODO list...it will get done before other things that are not...

I do have finals tho so don't count on it in the forseeable future...which isn't too far in the future

enlightenment · Post by **enlightenment** » Tue May 20, 2003 7:31 am

Anonymous wrote:well, anyone who really wants it can download the CVS and play it

Yes, but not everyone has a C++ compiler and the working knowledge to build VS from source.

Post by **dandandaman** » Tue May 20, 2003 10:36 am

just a thought..but will the minimalist binary (win) work with cvs data? it should....so there is an instant release for anyone who really wants it that much....but there is too much not done to warrant another release just yet

Dan.a

Post by **mkruer** » Tue May 20, 2003 9:34 pm

Correct though I am not sure how the version scheme will be, but perhaps it should be changed to the *nixâ€™s version numbers

x.x.x

Where the first x is the version, the second x represents beta (odd numbers 1,3,5,7,9) and final (even numbers 0,2,4,6,8) and the third x is bug updates

So in a nutshell, first digit is a complete overhaul or review of the source, second is a massive update of a substantial portion on the code, and the last one is minor (bug) fixes

So I guess that would mean

VS is really 1.3.?

Post by **hellcatv** » Wed May 21, 2003 2:31 am

So the reason I've been holding up with releasing the next Vega Strike is the artwork...
I knew Howard Day and some people on this forum were working on redoing the ships for the next release...

well I believe the time has come where the major shipment of these models is in the VS EXT part of our website as well as in this package

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/vega ... r?download

please download it and see the artwork and modding forum--and help me get them ready for game--from VDU images to stats to shields...

this needs to be finished before we can release

and now you'll realize why this was worth the wait

Post by **hurleybird** » Wed May 21, 2003 2:35 am

Great! cant wait to see this in game... im DL'ing it now.

Duality · Post by **Duality** » Wed May 21, 2003 2:56 am

Oh great.. Winzip 8.0 Doesnt reconize .rar files. :(

Post by **hellcatv** » Wed May 21, 2003 4:02 am

http://www.rarlab.com/

that's how to view it

Post by **hurleybird** » Wed May 21, 2003 4:40 am

wow... 50MB .rar thats a pretty hefty amount of art!

The new models look good... though most of them have textureing problems whiich i think is due to the texture being named wrong... or my VS is too out of date. Cant wait to see the finals though!

Post by **hellcatv** » Wed May 21, 2003 4:51 am

unfortunately these are the finals...

if you coudl tell me *which* textures are named wrongly then that would be a great help

I can get them from Howard Day.... otherwise we won't get finals at all

I posted this here so you could help me

if you just say random stuff is missing then I can't help to fix it...

Post by **hurleybird** » Wed May 21, 2003 4:54 am

Hummm... i looked at the art in explorer and i noticed that lots of the old art hadnt been copied over (for example, x1.bmp remianed because the new texture is .png) i'll try installing it from scratch. Also when i looked over the new art i must say that the textures were VERY IMPRESSIVE, i just got to get them to actually show up

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