Cargo from destroyed ships

[BurninLeo]

Hello!

Seems I am in a mood of knowing better today. Sorry, I know what an every growing to-do-list feels like...

I just read a thred about some goddard crashing the game by blowing up a freighter. A cloud of crates suddenly appeared.

What I wounder: Why must each peace of cargo be stored in a single crate? At least cargo of the same kind (e.g. 100 water) would be packaged in one container by usual (I think VS puts each in a single crate?). But even different weapons could lie next to each other in one crate. This would make piracy easier

What do think about that?


Btw: Why do the uln's mules always carry so few cargo? If I pick up everything such a ship drops when destroyed, it is worth only a few hundret bugs.

[klauss]

Btw: Why do the uln's mules always carry so few cargo? If I pick up everything such a ship drops when destroyed, it is worth only a few hundret bugs.

Because you rob the poor (uln) to give to the rich (you)?
jk

[Oblivion]

I agree with BurninLeo. I think there should really be better pickings when doing a bit of robin hood stuff.


I don't want to be just a trader, or a bounty hunter, or an explorer, I WANT TO BE A PIRATE

[Cassandros]

I WANT TO BE A PIRATE Twisted Evil

Ditto!

[Shark]

Consider how goods are packaged and delivered in the real world: they're packed into boxes, which are loaded onto palettes, which are loaded into large, steel containers, which are loaded onto ships.

[prolog]

Right. The problem arises when simulating hundreds and hundreds of these flying through space, simulataneously, on today's meagre computers.

[vegavest]

but when i blow up a ship i cant see any crates or debris of a ship

[Oblivion]

Oneof two things:

1.not on the roadmap atm, i.e. it's intended that way

2.it's too difficult and might have been tried once but was too buggy

[rkutai]

Greetings from space...

I think I quite agree with prolog, suppose let say I managed
to blow up a huge capship with my Dodo (I did once, by accident)
suppose that capship happens to carry say some thousand or more
say coffee, or protocol robots. now to tractor that many one by one,
gees, it'll be boring after tractoring like five minutes of gaming time.
It'll be worse if those who happen to hate u start throwing rocks at u.

Besides, the game would really crawl, eg try going to a thick asteriod field
my machine crawled and I thought I was about to do the Matrix

The current game play I think may not be realistic but then again this
is a game. But I'd much prefer if one can buy plenty of cargos from planets
or stations rather than just one or two of something. It took me ages to be
able to upgrade my Dodo. 7mil for overdrive xv?

I need to go now and smuggle more specialty wine or do some "buy cheap
sell really high"

Gasp! 7mil!

[vegavest]

i know this is totally off topic, but what is so good abou a dodo? start off with no guns u gotta spend a fortune just to make it space worthy when u could just buy a rlaan fighter with real good weps and agility

[forlarren]

Why even bother with crates? I would very much prefer if instead of crates exploding out of the ship instead you had to dock with the now destroyed but mostly whole hulk and had a salvage menu. The amount of time to salvage would vary depending on if you had salvage robots, their quality, and or salvage lasers/tractor system and its quality. If you have the cargo room even the entire hulk could be salvaged for scrap. Pirate bases could also scrap a hulk that you tow in with a tractor for a fee.

[charlieg]

Why even bother with crates? I would very much prefer if instead of crates exploding out of the ship instead you had to dock with the now destroyed but mostly whole hulk and had a salvage menu. The amount of time to salvage would vary depending on if you had salvage robots, their quality, and or salvage lasers/tractor system and its quality. If you have the cargo room even the entire hulk could be salvaged for scrap. Pirate bases could also scrap a hulk that you tow in with a tractor for a fee.

Yes ++this ++lots very very good idea. Please oh please do this - grabbing crap out of space is done wrong in almost all space games; this is how it should be done.

[Boaal]

My problem is that Ilm too attached to my beloved cannons and weapons on my hyena to store a tractor beam so I end up leaving the cargo out..

[Shissui]

@Boaal: you should support forlarren's idea then --

If this idea were implemented, you would dock with the wreck & start salvage just like my milspec dodo. BUT, because my milspec dodo is loaded with heavy tractors & your hyena has nothing of the sort, my dodo will recover more &/or faster &/or more efficiently (read: better choices available) from all possible loot.

I.e.: you should still get *something* this way. (How much you get, of course, would need to be calibrated some other day.)

[Sunfire]

*trips over the mat stumbiling his way back to the site*

*"woah... havent been here in awhile..."*

*wipes dirt off compy*

HOLY CRAP!!! what a good idea forlarren!!

dude... that has got to be one thing i would LOVE to see in the game...

atleast for capships... capship recycling! junkyards! pirate bases! secret stashes!

[Rabiator]

Why even bother with crates? I would very much prefer if instead of crates exploding out of the ship instead you had to dock with the now destroyed but mostly whole hulk and had a salvage menu. The amount of time to salvage would vary depending on if you had salvage robots, their quality, and or salvage lasers/tractor system and its quality. If you have the cargo room even the entire hulk could be salvaged for scrap. Pirate bases could also scrap a hulk that you tow in with a tractor for a fee.

Good idea, and it could be implemented in stages so not all the work has to be done at once.

Stage 1:
You dock with the wreck and find some cargo that you can simply transfer to your own cargo hold. Similar to buying stuff in a station, but you don't pay anything

Stage 2:
With additional equipment, you can retrieve some of the destroyed ship's equipment. Think disassembly robots that unmount that expensive gun from the wreck...
Not sure about the best GUI design for this, however.

Stage 3:
The disassembly robots can cut up the ship for you, and load it into your cargo hold as scrap. This one might be a lot of work to implement properly (The graphics should show the wreck in various stages of disassembly), so Forlarren's alternate idea of towing the whole wreck to a station might be better.

[Fart_Plume]

Ilke the salvage idea, you could buy robot arms equipped with plasma cutters to cut the ship apart, mounting them in a turret slot. and use a gripper to load the pieces and cargo on board your ship.