VegaStrike -- on sale on eBay

[CubOfJudahsLion]

Well, I had to let you guys know about this one. It certainly got me thinking, specially as this is not the only OSS product they're selling.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0090477132

Of course, it's perfectly legal to sell GPL'd software as long as you respect the license conditions and keep the notice -- in the disk itself.

That's right, nothing in the GPL forces you to advertise the fact that what you're selling is, in fact, OSS. It allows you to distribute it, sell copies and provide support services as long as you keep the notice within the distribution.

Not surprisingly, the provider fails to mention the OSS nature of VS and every other piece of software they're selling (a list that includes Blender and OpenOffice). It remains to be seen whether he posts the notice and license with the CDs though.

In more than one way: dang.

[loki1950]

nice to see your avatar Cub been a while busy busy. looks to be that there are still people that look for deals to good to be true i've gotten a few spam mails offering OSS stuff i wonder if forwarding them to the developers so they can check for GPL compliance is in order.

Enjoy the Choice

[www2]

i hef chack google and i fonunt this:
http://www.dangerdeep.net/forums/viewto ... 7aeebd56e5

And i contact ebay about this.

Thx for the info CubOfJudahsLion.

[Oblivion]

well, we've all been warned about gpl. lol. still i wish the seller couldve at least made mention that it was open source. i know i know. not needed. but hey when they open the disk and see the gpl license stuck there, they'll probably think they were better off dling it.

[www2]

i hef send a report to ebay

[Dilloh]

I've additionally contacted the auction winner and sent him all information. I'm not sure if eBay blocked me because I'm not affiliated on eBay as seller or bidder with the guy.

I told him a way to withdraw his bid: The screenshots are from VegaTrek, not from VegaStrike. So he could argue that the game he'll get is not the game he has bid for. Maybe the poor guy can save his money.

[www2]

i found this in the opitions form apexsoftware

Feedback Policy:

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We want to receive and leave positive feedback for each and every purchase.
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If you have any issues with your purchase, please let us know and we will work it out.
*
Negative feedback without any communications will result in negative feedback to the buyer.

[Shissui]

I am not sure that all of the material is GPL --

How is the art and the music used in the game licensed? I think that the creator retains copyright & it is used with permission. If true, then there is copyright violation by selling the art/music without an extended letter of permission. They could legally sell VS if they stripped the art & music and replaced it = within the boundaries of GPL repackaging, for which they may be fairly compensated.

If this is *not* the case, then I suggest that somebody slap a copyright on whatever artwork goes onto the next disk pressing. Then, they would be able to auction the software distribution, but we could protest to copyright violation if they resell the disk itself (ie - selling without repackaging).

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We want to receive and leave positive feedback for each and every purchase.
If you have any issues with your purchase, please let us know and we will work it out.
Negative feedback without any communications will result in negative feedback to the buyer.

This is pretty typical of eBay, even if relatively few sellers are honest/blatant enough to say it openly.

[www2]

i hef notes a dutch tv programe about scams about this user.

if som one want to tell about this scame on the ducht tv contact this adres:

Redactie Opgelicht
P.O. box 28555
1202 LP Hilversum
The Nederland
Tel: 0900-6743542 (only in the nederland)
Email: opgelicht@tros.nl

[snow_Cat]

^ - -^ Heh- I used to do this sort of thing back when I started in college- difference being that I would sell 'supplementary bandwidth' and 'electronic-research' at a fixed rate of $7.50/gig.
^ - -^ Things were good until I got swamped with orders for Gunbound and consequently three 'watchdog' groups threatened to sue me for 'piracy'. [Morons] didnot even serve me, just demanded 'money or else'.

^- - ^ Those were the days before my housemates discovered they were a drug dealer, bartender, brewer, and a frenchman that combined to form a drunken rabble every day and night.
^- - ^ ...
^- -^ I think I now understand why I hate freshmen so badly.

[hellcatv]

I think it's hilarious they're selling Vega Strike

[micheal_andreas_stahl]

The cheek.

I've got to email this thread to my brother. He has had the same thing happen to him.

[Oblivion]

i think it's alright too. but the price just doesnt seem to justify it. anyway, it was a bid.

[micheal_andreas_stahl]

^ - -^ Heh- I used to do this sort of thing back when I started in college- difference being that I would sell 'supplementary bandwidth' and 'electronic-research' at a fixed rate of $7.50/gig.
^ - -^ Things were good until I got swamped with orders for Gunbound and consequently three 'watchdog' groups threatened to sue me for 'piracy'. [Morons] didnot even serve me, just demanded 'money or else'.

^- - ^ Those were the days before my housemates discovered they were a drug dealer, bartender, brewer, and a frenchman that combined to form a drunken rabble every day and night.
^- - ^ ...
^- -^ I think I now understand why I hate freshmen so badly.

You did this sort of thing??? Haa. An ex-spammer in our own midst. We have been receiving e-mails like that. How would one stop it?

[snow_Cat]

We have been receiving e-mails like that. How would one stop it?

^ - -^ Easy. To avoid recieving unwanted e-mails don't check your e-mail.

[micheal_andreas_stahl]

We have been receiving e-mails like that. How would one stop it?

^ - -^ Easy. To avoid recieving unwanted e-mails don't check your e-mail.

Why am i suprised? I was not execpting that.

[GoldenGnu]

We have been receiving e-mails like that. How would one stop it?

^ - -^ Easy. To avoid recieving unwanted e-mails don't check your e-mail.

[micheal_andreas_stahl]

Problem is i can't do that. I live and breath by my e-mail.

[Shissui]

Problem is i can't do that. I live and breath by my e-mail.

Then spam should not be a problem at all -- think of it as a form of pollution, so that makes it a lot like the air that you also breathe.

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Edit: But, personally, I have air filters in my office and I do the same for my email -- I run it first through "Spam Assassin" & then through a fairly complex procmail file tailored to my personal environment. The combination removes all but about (1 to 3)/1000 spam, except when the spammers get a new idea . . . and then it is maintenance time again.

[snow_Cat]

^- - ^ The best thing I can suggest is that you use filters to sort your mail into three categories:

• known Contact
  Users (or bots) who you know.
• known source
  Servers (or routers) who host contacts you know
• unknown/unsorted

  Usually, terrible things that are done with the excuse that progress requires them are not really progress at all, but just terrible things.

  • Russel Baker quotes brainyquote.com

[micheal_andreas_stahl]

That requies energy. Something i don't have. But otherwise it is logical.