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Fusion rockets ho!
Spotted this earlier tonight on yahoo. Looks like NASA is looking into something other than Ion propulsion for system exploration. Anyone up for a quick (30 day) jaunt to mars??
Couple this (since Federation ships were fusion powered anyway) and a working warp drive and youve got NCC-1701 ready to explore the galaxy The only thing missing is the matter-antimatter setup, and that could well be possible in the next 50 years.
Are transporters missing? No, not really. There was an article posted a few years back (somewhere, maybe yahoo) that scientist were able to transport light from one location to another.
And last techno marvel, how about solar collection farms in orbit collecting an unlimited amount of energy from the sun and beaming it down to various relay stations on earth. Yet another tech in the works
Now if only they can get sky farms and Atificial Trees up and running... Oh well, to dream a dream
Couple this (since Federation ships were fusion powered anyway) and a working warp drive and youve got NCC-1701 ready to explore the galaxy The only thing missing is the matter-antimatter setup, and that could well be possible in the next 50 years.
Are transporters missing? No, not really. There was an article posted a few years back (somewhere, maybe yahoo) that scientist were able to transport light from one location to another.
And last techno marvel, how about solar collection farms in orbit collecting an unlimited amount of energy from the sun and beaming it down to various relay stations on earth. Yet another tech in the works
Now if only they can get sky farms and Atificial Trees up and running... Oh well, to dream a dream
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Me! Me! Me!pheonixstorm wrote:Spotted this earlier tonight on yahoo. Looks like NASA is looking into something other than Ion propulsion for system exploration. Anyone up for a quick (30 day) jaunt to mars??
There was a guy with a web page trying to get funding to build it. He was an engineer, so he knew his stuff, and said only needed a few billions from government fundingpheonixstorm wrote:Couple this (since Federation ships were fusion powered anyway) and a working warp drive and youve got NCC-1701 ready to explore the galaxy The only thing missing is the matter-antimatter setup, and that could well be possible in the next 50 years.
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*cough*coldfusion*cough*pheonixstorm wrote: Spotted this earlier tonight on yahoo.
Doesn't annihilation produce mostly gamma rays? How do you turn that into useful energy efficiently?The only thing missing is the matter-antimatter setup, and that could well be possible in the next 50 years.
It might kill you instantly, but at least a perfect duplicate will be created at the destination, able to pick up your life where you left off (until he too steps into a transporter and is obliterated). The average lifespan of people who use this technology will be two weeks.Are transporters missing? No, not really. There was an article posted a few years back (somewhere, maybe yahoo) that scientist were able to transport light from one location to another.
Or perhaps one around the sun itself, orbiting a little closer than mercury. Turning some of its enormous energy intake into the only economically viable antimatter production scheme.And last techno marvel, how about solar collection farms in orbit collecting an unlimited amount of energy from the sun and beaming it down to various relay stations on earth.
Then there will be nothing stopping our population from reaching 10 trillion. Yea!Now if only they can get sky farms
I have been thinking about a layered design like this being used for the agriculture module of VS' space stations. Though without gravity to deal with, an even more radical layout might make sense.
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@nice article phoenix
http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/
I need dig some time in my mail archive and here is the link to the guy that wand to build ncc-1701.klauss wrote:There was a guy with a web page trying to get funding to build it. He was an engineer, so he knew his stuff, and said only needed a few billions from government funding
http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/
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There needs to be a sister project for fans of star wars, with the goal of building a star destroyer in orbit to destroy the enterprise replica and rule the galaxy with an iron fist.www2 wrote: @nice article phoenixI need dig some time in my mail archive and here is the link to the guy that wand to build ncc-1701.klauss wrote:There was a guy with a web page trying to get funding to build it. He was an engineer, so he knew his stuff, and said only needed a few billions from government funding
http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/
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Well. There was a petition to build a Death Star.
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Don't want to dive too much into fringe stuff, but there has been some weird stuff going on in the EU.Deus Siddis wrote:*cough*coldfusion*cough*
Check the pdfs here http://www.enea.it/it/Ufficio-Bruxelles ... ons-effect
Agenda: http://www.enea.it/it/Ufficio-Bruxelles ... agenda-pdf
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Fusion is the next great energy source, always has been and always will be.log0 wrote:Don't want to dive too much into fringe stuff, but there has been some weird stuff going on in the EU.Deus Siddis wrote:*cough*coldfusion*cough*
Check the pdfs here http://www.enea.it/it/Ufficio-Bruxelles ... ons-effect
Agenda: http://www.enea.it/it/Ufficio-Bruxelles ... agenda-pdf
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Maybe. It's whether it's cold or hot what defines whether it's sci or fi.Deus Siddis wrote:Fusion is the next great energy source, always has been and always will be.
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I wonder if anything will ever come of the zero-point energy research
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... t-research
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy
but then there's this.. which so far I have found some of its articles to be laughable. http://science.howstuffworks.com/enviro ... energy.htm
At least I know one tech used in the Stargate Tv series wasn't a complete sci-fantasy Beyond rail guns anyway.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... t-research
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy
but then there's this.. which so far I have found some of its articles to be laughable. http://science.howstuffworks.com/enviro ... energy.htm
At least I know one tech used in the Stargate Tv series wasn't a complete sci-fantasy Beyond rail guns anyway.
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Funny thing is, they are not calling the Fleischmann-Pons stuff cold fusion anymore. It seems to be something else (maybe some weird kind of electron capture). It seems to cause transmutation too, according to Toyota and Mitsubishi research. But from what I can grasp nobody has got an idea what it is. So they call it "anomalous heat effect".klauss wrote:Maybe. It's whether it's cold or hot what defines whether it's sci or fi.Deus Siddis wrote:Fusion is the next great energy source, always has been and always will be.
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I suppose in the context of the next hundred years or so. But it feels like science magazines and such have been over-hyping recent happenings in hot fusion as well. Mostly because of some positive language coming out of the US' national ignition facility (I believe it was) about achieving ignition last year, which was amplified by the media, but then didn't pan out.klauss wrote:Maybe. It's whether it's cold or hot what defines whether it's sci or fi.Deus Siddis wrote:Fusion is the next great energy source, always has been and always will be.
I wonder how close is this heat effect to the amount of energy put into the experiment?log0 wrote: Funny thing is, they are not calling the Fleischmann-Pons stuff cold fusion anymore. It seems to be something else (maybe some weird kind of electron capture). It seems to cause transmutation too, according to Toyota and Mitsubishi research. But from what I can grasp nobody has got an idea what it is. So they call it "anomalous heat effect".
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Like I read somewhere: fusion is always 20 years ahead.
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"... size of the effect varies considerably in an uncontrolled way" which seems to make replication hard too.Deus Siddis wrote:I wonder how close is this heat effect to the amount of energy put into the experiment?
There are some claims that it is a nano scale surface cavities effect and that the heat produced would have adverse impact by melting reaction sites and destroying the sample. Let's see if they manage to figure this one out. A lot of guesswork, no theory and being ignored by mainstream doesn't help either I guess.
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It's being ignored by mainstream, last I heard, because the experiments are being carried out with very poor methodology. If they figure it out, it'll be a miracle.log0 wrote:"... size of the effect varies considerably in an uncontrolled way" which seems to make replication hard too.Deus Siddis wrote:I wonder how close is this heat effect to the amount of energy put into the experiment?
There are some claims that it is a nano scale surface cavities effect and that the heat produced would have adverse impact by melting reaction sites and destroying the sample. Let's see if they manage to figure this one out. A lot of guesswork, no theory and being ignored by mainstream doesn't help either I guess.
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May be... I am not in the position to judge. Hopefully, the new Institute at the University of Missouri will be able to change this, they should have the manpower and facilities to get it right.klauss wrote:It's being ignored by mainstream, last I heard, because the experiments are being carried out with very poor methodology. If they figure it out, it'll be a miracle.log0 wrote:"... size of the effect varies considerably in an uncontrolled way" which seems to make replication hard too.Deus Siddis wrote:I wonder how close is this heat effect to the amount of energy put into the experiment?
There are some claims that it is a nano scale surface cavities effect and that the heat produced would have adverse impact by melting reaction sites and destroying the sample. Let's see if they manage to figure this one out. A lot of guesswork, no theory and being ignored by mainstream doesn't help either I guess.