Space-Liner

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:15 am

where to get more pics like this one.
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/desktops.html
check out what i am going to try to do..

Care of ambrosia and EvNova

etheral walker · Post by **etheral walker** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:01 pm

Hey you should explain me, g3david. I always saw marvellous 3d screenshots of EVnova, but when I downloaded and installed the game, there was some only some poor 2d things: is there something I missed?

etheral walker · Post by **etheral walker** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:03 pm

like this, http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/images/battle2.jpg
which is not as sexy as this http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/des ... 4x768).jpg

peteyg · Post by **peteyg** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:06 pm

That's a good question. It's always seem to me that there were TWO EV Novas.

Post by **hurleybird** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:21 pm

the 3d stuff is just the pictures they use for ship descriptions.

pontiac · Post by **pontiac** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:16 pm

hurleybird wrote:the 3d stuff is just the pictures they use for ship descriptions.

HAven't played EV Nova yet, but from what i seem from the screenshots/ship-descriptions it handles grafis exactly the opposit way vegastrike does:

EV Nova: low quality ships in game --- high quality ships (ship pics) in description
Vegastrike: high quality ships in game ---- simple description (if any) in the ships dealer

Pontiac

etheral walker · Post by **etheral walker** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:59 pm

Yes, I just downloaded the windows version, I don't see anything in 3c

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:25 pm

the emphasis is on gameplay...its easier to fight a enemy in a 2d game than in a 3d game..no offense to this game, of course....they made 2 earlier versions of Escape velocity...original, with just EV, and EV: override..the ships looked better and better..its meant so that it can play on a machine with not such high-end graphics
i'm sure they made those models so they could get the turning right in the game.

G3David being lazy · Post by **G3David being lazy** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:31 pm

heres my star-liner in wings so far... tell me what you think

Post by **hurleybird** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:34 pm

Looking pretty good so far.

Though if I were you, i would change the appearance so it doesent look exactly like the one from EV nova, at least if you want it in the game. If its just a mod thats ok, but you have to be carefull about violating copyrights.

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:40 pm

yeah i know, i was going for "okay, make it look like the game, then change it enough to make it only look similar"

etheral walker · Post by **etheral walker** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:57 pm

And please make screenshots with polylines, to give a better apprehension of the shapes

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:46 pm

here they are, the face line versions:

E-Mail me if you want the wings file

Post by **hurleybird** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:12 pm

If you want to make it a smaller craft, and you make the blue area into a cockpit, it would make a great small private shuttle for rich executives. A white or a light grey texture would be good, it should look pretty clean.

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:47 am

yeah, i could do that, but it would also make a good luxury cruise-ship to take people to and from pleasure planets.
multiple sizes, main thing.
you can specify the mesh size in the ship file..same mesh..different sizes/textures
i also made a flying suacer design if you're interested.

Post by **hurleybird** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:48 am

Why dont you post a pic?

Silverain · Post by **Silverain** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:08 am

mmmm,

Nice design, but it strikes me as more a shuttle, private yacht than a larger ship/liner.

You need to definitely watch the copyright too. I think to avoid infringements you would need some fairly major changes. <suggestion> Remove the engines from the rear of the main body. Change the wing sections into the engines. I think something like that would be enough to invoke thoughts of EV Nova, but be a sufficiently different design.

richard · Post by **richard** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:30 am

Definitely watch out, you'd want to get the original author's permission or else even a derivative work could be a problem (especially if it's incorporated into the game proper, then it's a problem for the whole project). I'm sure that most artists wouldn't mind seeing their creations come to life though.

I'm also of the opinion that the thing looks a bit small to be a "liner". The sweep of the leading edge is quite reminiscent of the Jules Verve / Steampunk / Space: 1889 style. I think that sort of design could be quite popular as a luxury ship design. Have a look at http://www.steam-trek.com/ for some ideas perhaps.

Oh wow! The MusÃ©e des Arts et MÃ©tiers has a website! http://www.arts-et-metiers.net/ Unfortunately, it's only in French, so unless you can read that, you're stuck looking at the pictures... DAMN :) Anyone visiting Paris who is vaguely interested in science and technology, should spend a day there. Make sure you catch the metro there, the station feels like you've stepped out into the Nautilus :)

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:19 pm

yeah, i was thining of making the side things into engine nacelles (may not be spelled right)
the main thing was, i wanted to make it look lieke in-evnova first, then change it so its unique..just a test of my own abilities...i'll get rid of the engines in the back(they aren't attached anyway) and make the side things the engines.
and i don't have any in-game pics yet, have not been able top get it to load yet...i don't have textures for it and i put it in place of the eject_pod..so i'll get to work on it as soon as i get home(i'm at UAB now)
will work on it later today, around 4:00 PM central time

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:42 am

i have the Star-Liner replaceing the eject unit, it has two torpedo tubes and a handlaser(mine is powerful) feel free to place attractor or something...so anyway, make a backup of the eject xunit file and dl this zip:

http://norm.dpo.uab.edu/~g3david/eject.zip
[EDIT]^^^ will give you my improved eject-pod

P.S will post in-game pic soon and will make hud image soon for it

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:55 am

okay, the previous on now links to my actual eject pod and not my star-liner
you can download my star-liner/yacht whatever(name in progress)
My Star-liner in its own little folder

Major · Post by **Major** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:56 am

IÂ´ve got errors in both zip files

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:25 am

i know, i did too...i made a zip from directly within the units folder...it had errors because of it..i fixed it by copying the foders to my desktop and doing it again, the zips will work now..
i hope

G3David · Post by **G3David** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 2:40 am

it will work now
here it is again:
http://norm.dpo.uab.edu/~g3david/Star-Liner.zip

Shark · Post by **Shark** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 7:26 pm

More civilian craft would be nice.